From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 4 21:59:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBA13339FD for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 21:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10008516866.7f87e5013f55d15d9c168e80f5c9c985@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49dKSp0kSRz44Br for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 21:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10008516866.7f87e5013f55d15d9c168e80f5c9c985@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1591307994; x=1593899994; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=e9ZCzlIroZs5HHZQkk2cCzbjzLHs4E9b0qlE1buBo1k=; b=OH5zANtRTXxW4NIRO6pquFN7fvZ2KX26BnYILh+ig1z7ditdU/MlczveI87PiIWKvKlEu1aplGyL64ost/bghV3FGmGXJ92CPXboaZ+LOP6XndxpjQemWtR7/gJNQRr0hjzItK1o7M0cbdAljtJyNaTKa1/Y3EtxO40EhDFJ94c= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDg1MTY4NjYuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:59:40 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:59:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jgxti-000JlM-K1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 22:59:38 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 22:59:38 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minimal skills Message-Id: <20200604225938.3baf5056ebd397f4a4acf81c@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20200604005859.ca438474.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200604020051.0c02472d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200604074134.89eb6518.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49dKSp0kSRz44Br X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=OH5zANtR; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c10008516866.7f87e5013f55d15d9c168e80f5c9c985@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c10008516866.7f87e5013f55d15d9c168e80f5c9c985@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.992]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.05)[-1.049]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.15)[-0.148]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c10008516866.7f87e5013f55d15d9c168e80f5c9c985@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c10008516866.7f87e5013f55d15d9c168e80f5c9c985@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 21:59:55 -0000 On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 15:22:16 -0600 Brandon helsley wrote: > I'm doing the indentation myself. Does your mailer do the indentation for > you or do you do it yourself? Many mailers know how to prefix and indent quoted material, many even know how to re-wrap it when the indentation pushes line length conventions. They also tend to know about the dash-dash-space-newline signature break convention and strip signatures on reply. Choice of mailer is every bit as personal and contentious as choice of text editor - FWIW I use Sylpheed and vim because they've both failed to irritate me much for many years now. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith