From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 15:24:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC3BB61354 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@freebsd.org) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (mx1.scaleengine.net [209.51.186.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E24D1D80 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (unknown [192.168.1.10]) (Authenticated sender: allanjude.freebsd@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 52FDBD5A9 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: EFI GELI support ready for testers To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <519CC1FC-84DF-4710-8E62-AF26D8AED2CF@metricspace.net> <20160528083656.GT38613@kib.kiev.ua> <20160528172618.GB38613@kib.kiev.ua> <6A9DADE0-B214-424A-BB14-0B0848F0D08D@metricspace.net> <20160529091827.GD38613@kib.kiev.ua> <46B3F9E2-A25B-4F9D-B35F-11AC782495B1@metricspace.net> <20160601144738.GA14531@britannica.bec.de> From: Allan Jude Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:24:45 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:24:51 -0000 On 2016-06-01 11:19, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> This sounds more like a religious dogma than anything else. >> >> If "ZFS volume" means "ZFS pool" here, it is also blatant bullshit. >> There are a lot of reasons for having more than one ZFS pool, the >> easiest being separating SSDs and HDDs for fast vs cheap storage. > assuming one would like to use ZFS - it is of course right. As with any > other filesystem. > > Even more - no matter what filesystem i would use i would never want to > put tens of disks as one filesystem. for simple reason of recovery and > reliability. > > And i consider FreeBSD loader already overcomplex. having separate > partition for boot stuff is just fine. After kernel is loaded it takes > care of all stuff. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Well, that is kind of the point of ZFS, to have a filesystem with more than just a few disks, but reliably. We are not taking anything away from you, just allowing you to have the option to keep the kernel in a convenient place. -- Allan Jude