From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 3 18:30:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04741 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles144.castles.com [208.214.165.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04638; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00613; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:33:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810040133.SAA00613@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (Bill Paul), SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2nd call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Oct 1998 19:45:46 -0300." <199810032245.TAA27322@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 18:33:22 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > #define quoting(Bill Paul) > // The 8139 isn't an NE2000 clone. RealTek does make NE2000 clone cards, > // but those use the 8029 and 8039 chips, which are 10Mbps only. The 8129 > // and 8139 are fast ethernet controllers (the difference between them > // is the 8129 uses an external physical interface chip whereas the 8139 > // has one built in). > > But the 8029 (and probably 8039 also) does have media select and full > duplex support. Are there any plans to add support for these in the > ed driver ? No, not as far as I'm aware. Full duplex on a 10Mbps card is really somewhat of a waste unless you have a 10Mbps port on a switch. There aren't that many 10Mbps switches on the market to begin with, and if you have a 100Mbps switch, connecting to it with a crappy 10Mbps card doesn't make any sense. All of the 80x9 cards I've seen have automatic media detection, so there's no need for driver support AFAIK. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message