From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 3 9:38: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395AD37B404; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759CE43E9E; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:38:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g93GbaPC363360; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:37:50 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <007f01c26ae2$09b11ab0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> References: <3632.1033651189@critter.freebsd.dk> <007f01c26ae2$09b11ab0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:37:35 -0400 To: "Matthew Emmerton" , "Poul-Henning Kamp" From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: expat2 in the base system? Cc: "Sheldon Hearn" , , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 9:37 AM -0400 10/3/02, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > Garance A Drosihnwrites: >> >> >I think it would be very prudent that any base-system expat have > > >it's own name, even if it's just "expat2fb". > > >> It sounds to me like this sums it up nicely. The thing about it >> I like is that it does not prevent us from taking the other route >> later on, whereas putting an "official-looking" expat in the tree > > and yanking that later would be a mess. > >Well, playing the devil's advocate -- isn't this the type of >discussion the preceeded the introduction of Perl into the base >system, the introduction of which created such a mess that we >finally took Perl out of the base system in -CURRENT? The point is that we installed perl as 'perl - the official perl'. We then got into trouble when new versions of perl came out, and users argued which version should be the official one. That is exactly what we should try to avoid when bringing in expat2, and why I think it should be brought in under an alternate name. The official expat2 is not something we control. The present version of expat2 would be useful for parts of the base system, but we're bringing it in *for* the base system, and not "as a convenience for users". Thus, let's pick a name which will not conflict with the port. If the name does not conflict with the port, then we should not see the problems that we had with perl. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message