From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 11 15:42:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC4314F78 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:42:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13459; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:42:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA36974; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:40:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199907112240.QAA36974@harmony.village.org> To: Doug Subject: Re: a BSD identd Cc: Mark Murray , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:56:56 PDT." <37890518.AA3D70F0@gorean.org> References: <37890518.AA3D70F0@gorean.org> <199907112034.WAA17651@gratis.grondar.za> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:40:43 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <37890518.AA3D70F0@gorean.org> Doug writes: : Sure, but I don't think that compromised boxes are the norm, unless I'm : missing something here. The response doesn't have to come from the box being asked the question in order for it to be accepted. If you can load the box being asked highly enough, you can sniff the packets from another machine and then use that knowledge to win the race to make the connection. If you win the race, and the target machine responds, its answer will silently be tossed away. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message