From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org  Tue Aug  4 11:25:31 2015
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1])
 by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03609B30CA
 for <freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>;
 Tue,  4 Aug 2015 11:25:31 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from michipili@gmail.com)
Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5])
 by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D027A1E1C
 for <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>; Tue,  4 Aug 2015 11:25:31 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from michipili@gmail.com)
Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix)
 id CD7BF9B30C9; Tue,  4 Aug 2015 11:25:31 +0000 (UTC)
Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1])
 by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1359B30C8
 for <ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Tue,  4 Aug 2015 11:25:31 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from michipili@gmail.com)
Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com
 [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235])
 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits))
 (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com",
 Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK))
 by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63EF51E19;
 Tue,  4 Aug 2015 11:25:31 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from michipili@gmail.com)
Received: by wibud3 with SMTP id ud3so172511621wib.1;
 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 04:25:29 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
 h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc
 :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to;
 bh=r59DQSyccIF9qz1+4wHMn9UbZS4tCBCa2ZK6alqOidU=;
 b=PYTY7PwOQqoCRMEVjr1sB4moafyUDI5q0tkbgxTocP0htvp15QxWsVtuL0WsO3aELw
 fuaZP98fq+aAO08TsBnXNwXQ8tYazF6w0B4I9gtcRmMFMR1ZjWGviscJdXEHJ28LkawI
 tJPV9Qi6qwCFaGxHFzd7oOEkK44Obth3opLae17OibSNVGLT4CoEY4xsMnRu9hrUdLJt
 5BrdNaTCqm7J2Y/0WZV0n907/yXuOtcEUHqI6Cle66b6t5bJmIbwMq+syITChy6Y3sOg
 IDmcA3MccisbJUEEb6nYA2X5shlIQSIcADq8JPqegvYHUSjfd3RyhlnW1WNudLEg9msD
 vYSg==
X-Received: by 10.180.81.103 with SMTP id z7mr6660947wix.21.1438687529900;
 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 04:25:29 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.2.114] (p4FC1CC59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.193.204.89])
 by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l2sm1873484wib.11.2015.08.04.04.25.28
 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128);
 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 04:25:29 -0700 (PDT)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\))
Subject: Re: Proposal to fix postgresql package maintainance nightmare
From: =?utf-8?Q?Michael_Gr=C3=BCnewald?= <michipili@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20150721094627.GD21594@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:07:25 +0200
Cc: pgsql@FreeBSD.org,
 ports@FreeBSD.org
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <3C35EF0A-38EF-452A-AC9D-21805F4A45DB@gmail.com>
References: <20150721094627.GD21594@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102)
X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20
Precedence: list
List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD <freebsd-ports.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-ports>,
 <mailto:freebsd-ports-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-ports-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports>,
 <mailto:freebsd-ports-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:25:32 -0000


> On 21 Jul 2015, at 11:46, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote:
> - Impossible to have tools from both old and new version at the same =
time (which
> is necessary to upgrade db and prepare upgrades of db) =E2=80=A6

Could not jails be used to solve these issues by running the two (=E2=80=A6=
) required versions
in jailed environments?  There is a little bit of setup, but if by any =
chance you
are using some variation of the immutable server pattern, it should stay =
very low.