From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 19:39:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0391065682 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C86C8FC12 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m54JYn2X070348; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:34:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m54JYnpb070347; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:34:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:34:49 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Fraser Tweedale Message-ID: <20080604193449.GB70289@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080603090611.09512ba3@gom.home> <20080604115449.GA1070@bacardi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080604115449.GA1070@bacardi> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:39:11 -0000 On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:54:50PM +1000, Fraser Tweedale wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 01:45:57AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > [snip] > > The issue started several years ago when one of the core > > developers started agitating for a different graphic. Apparently > > he had been asked too many times for his taste if the FreeBSD > > project had something to do with devil worship. A long drawn > > out argument ensued but core being core got their way. Core > > then started claiming Beastie wasn't a logo, he was a mascot > > and that it why we needed a logo (despite the fact that Beastie > > has been used as a logo for years) As a > > peace offering they tried the contest idea. The submissions > > were so crappy they extended the contest deadline. Finally > > they got a submission that they decided was OK and that "won" > > the contest. The FreeBSD community was not allowed to see > > the other entrants. It was your basic star chamber decision. > > > > Ted > > I always have wondered about the other entries. Surely someone > has got a copy of them lying around; I (and I'm sure many others) > would be quite interested to see them, if such a thing is possible. Probably you really don't want to see them. Ted's narrative is pretty much how I remember it. Maybe everyone should make their own and use it. FreeBSD is a user created Open Software project after all. ////jerry > > frase