From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 26 20:39:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0CA1065670 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from horst@sxemacs.org) Received: from mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB918FC21 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from horst@sxemacs.org) Received: from [220.237.124.212] (c220-237-124-212.farfl2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.237.124.212]) (authenticated sender horst.burkhardt) by mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1QKdcCP023708; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:39:39 +1100 From: Horst =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther?= Burkhardt III To: Ananda Samaddar In-Reply-To: <20090226191342.52d4a36b@ananda-desktop> References: <20090226191342.52d4a36b@ananda-desktop> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-6IKgL8wmojQa022g3AtR" Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:40:01 +1100 Message-Id: <1235680801.14582.21.camel@horst-tla> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Questions about FreeBSD on a Mac Mini X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:39:41 -0000 --=-6IKgL8wmojQa022g3AtR Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 19:13 +0000, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > hi all, >=20 > I'm a prospective FreeBSD user and I've already done a bit of research > on the website, docs and mailing lists. I do have a few questions, > most of them are for confirmation rather than anything else so here > goes: >=20 > 1. It's not possible to use the installer to partition your disk as > fdisk doesn't work is this true? The Mac OS X Disk Utility is ideal for this purpose, also the Debian Net Install CD or the Finnix PPC LiveCD. > 2. Open Firmware doesn't understand FreeBSD partitions so there's no > reasonable way to boot an installed system is there? You use a small HFS partition, just needs to be 512KB or so, to boot the UFS partition on. It's a little extra work to configure, but once it's done you just leave it alone and it works perfectly. > 3. Altivec is not supported so there'll be a performance hit when using > FreeBSD? 8.0-CURRENT as of a few days ago has AltiVec support in kernel, so that's no longer an issue if you're willing to be our guinea pig ;) > The above issues are quite serious impediments in my opinion so I hope > I'm wrong on these issues. Please let me know what the situation is > and how FreeBSD performs on PPC in general. In short, I think you'll find that while the issues you iterated above are slightly problematic, they are hardly insurmountable. I had a bit of trouble configuring FreeBSD the first time round, but it runs rock-solid on my Power Macintosh G4, and boots in fifteen seconds from OFW to login prompt using a custom kernel. FreeBSD performance on PowerPC is exactly the same as on any other platform of comparable computing power. A lot depends on what you want to do with it.=20 The only issue I've found, (or at least suspect, and Peter Grehan suspects I may be on to something), is that sed(1) can sometimes behave oddly, which can screw up makefiles that depend on it sometimes. But you're not likely to run across one of those until it's fixed, if you take your time to get acquainted with the wonderfully rich OS that is FreeBSD before you tinker ;) (my expressions are no longer regular) Happy BSD'ing!=20 -- Horst. --=-6IKgL8wmojQa022g3AtR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkmm/iEACgkQRtTtv0BbTe4B1gCdEkUM2ohzfqJC1LoSEl5nHp7h lJoAmQFKlIEamepq4oCDjQCQrGrlVj2J =jYoF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-6IKgL8wmojQa022g3AtR--