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[73.19.52.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e5sm16108332pga.13.2017.05.13.10.09.46 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 13 May 2017 10:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9100C495-705F-4A7A-8839-5639A9A68FFD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r318250 - in head: etc etc/newsyslog.conf.d etc/syslog.d tools/build/mk Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 10:09:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Ngie Cooper , src-committers , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" To: Warner Losh References: <201705131537.v4DFbgWV045290@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 17:09:48 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9100C495-705F-4A7A-8839-5639A9A68FFD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On May 13, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Ngie Cooper > wrote: >>=20 >>> On May 13, 2017, at 09:29, Ngie Cooper = wrote: >>>=20 >>> On May 13, 2017, at 08:37, Rodney W. Grimes = wrote: >>>=20 >>>>> Author: ngie >>>>> Date: Sat May 13 03:10:50 2017 >>>>> New Revision: 318250 >>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/318250 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Log: >>>>> Handle the logfiles in newsyslog and syslogd conditionally, based = on >>>>> src.conf(5) knobs >>>>>=20 >>>>> This will allow consumers of FreeBSD to use the unmodified = configuration >>>>> files out of the box more than previously. >>>>=20 >>>> What about simply generating proper newsyslog.conf and syslog.conf = based >>>> on the the MK_ values rather than change the visible administration >>>> interface that has finger memory, ansible, and puppet support? >>>=20 >>> - My employer doesn't use puppet on its appliances. >>> - Files snapshotted in time bitrot (which was the case with our = configs, which is part of the reason behind this change. >=20 > couldn't you have an Isilion config file in the appropriate directory > instead? And use the default newsyslog / syslog config files? I=E2=80=99m not sure I=E2=80=99m in disagreement with this statement, = but the fact is that there are a handful of config files, about 200 = lines each, which drive newsyslog/syslogd on OneFS, with a fair amount = of duplication. I=E2=80=99m trying to simplify the mess I=E2=80=99m = presented with at work, one bit at a time. >>> - It's really easy to screw up a mergemaster call if you edit the = files, and install the stock version which removes the edits. >>=20 >> Also, programmatically removing the entries means you have to bake = the metadata into etc/Makefile, which is already complicated enough = as-is. >=20 > Why do you care about removing them at all? They are no-ops if the > files don't exist. Why not just always install all these files is > where I'm going with this=E2=80=A6 I don=E2=80=99t follow. Could you please restate this paragraph? 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