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Date:      Thu, 11 Sep 2003 01:52:55 +0200
From:      Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
To:        deischen@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Quo vadis, -CURRENT? (recent changes to cc & compatibility)
Message-ID:  <3F5FB957.7040407@gmx.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10309101550160.15329-100000@pcnet5.pcnet.com>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.10.10309101550160.15329-100000@pcnet5.pcnet.com>

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Daniel Eischen wrote:

>>I feel that a FreeBSD that manages to break so many existing configure-scripts
>>and build systems is degraded in usefulness.
> 
> Please, this is -current.  If you want less pain then stick
> with -stable and you won't be annoyed by the -pthread removal.

Perhaps I should make it clear that, personally, I'm NOT very much annoyed. I 
know my way around in ports@, I actually do know what -CURRENT means and I 
have no problem with using the ports-collection exclusively instead of quickly 
  compiling my own stuff right there in my user-account.

The problem is just that this -CURRENT is supposed to be -STABLE rather soon, 
as we all know (I think the RE status for HEAD is 'Semi-Frozen', too). There 
are many users out there with 5.1-Release installed which have at best only a 
very distant clue about the fact they're running an "early adopter's release" 
and they won't be upgrading to 4.9-R or 4.10-R when the time arrives.

For someone coming from 5.0-R or 5.1-R, the new "necessary evil behaviour" of 
cc/c++, be it -pedantic or -pthread, will be totally unexpected.

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