From owner-freebsd-security Mon Sep 27 14: 5:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (ns.mt.sri.com [206.127.79.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042AA14E34 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA28897; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:03:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA12558; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:03:41 -0600 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:03:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199909272103.PAA12558@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), cjclark@home.com, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca (Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group), dillon@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon), freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dump(8) Insecurity/Misconfiguration In-Reply-To: <199909272038.NAA13161@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> References: <199909271932.NAA11712@mt.sri.com> <199909272038.NAA13161@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > [ > > Rod asserts that using SSH for backups is a revenue-generating task, and > > as such violates the 'free' use of the SSH license. > > ] > > > > > I'll bet you dollars to a dog turd that the SSH licensor considers this > > > a licensable situation. > > > > I've got the dog turd, so the bet is on. > > Okay. Who do I call or email?? www.datafellows.com However, realize that ignorance is somewhat bliss here, so don't go off sicking DataFellows on a bunch of unsuspecting people because of the way you define what backups are. > > However, $2K/seat is alot of money for an ISP to charge for something as > > trivial as backups, especially when minimum cost is $4K (one for the > > tape server, and one for the remote client). > > Hummmm.... twice what a reasonable capacity tape drive is a bit much!! > But it is much less than some of the backup solutions we have done for > clients, with DLT robots and such. > > > It's simply not worth it, IMO. > > It could be worth it, if Licenese violations where at concerned the > normal allowable damages would far exceed the $4K. > > The real simple solution for this person is to simply go use amanda, > that is how we eliminated this whole issue! Amanda doesn't solve the security issue. :( Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message