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Date:      Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:03:41 -0600
From:      Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), cjclark@home.com, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca (Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group), dillon@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon), freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: dump(8) Insecurity/Misconfiguration
Message-ID:  <199909272103.PAA12558@mt.sri.com>
In-Reply-To: <199909272038.NAA13161@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
References:  <199909271932.NAA11712@mt.sri.com> <199909272038.NAA13161@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>

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> > [
> > Rod asserts that using SSH for backups is a revenue-generating task, and
> > as such violates the 'free' use of the SSH license.
> > ]
> > 
> > > I'll bet you dollars to a dog turd that the SSH licensor considers this
> > > a licensable situation.
> > 
> > I've got the dog turd, so the bet is on.
> 
> Okay.  Who do I call or email??

www.datafellows.com

However, realize that ignorance is somewhat bliss here, so don't go off
sicking DataFellows on a bunch of unsuspecting people because of the way
you define what backups are.

> > However, $2K/seat is alot of money for an ISP to charge for something as
> > trivial as backups, especially when minimum cost is $4K (one for the
> > tape server, and one for the remote client).
> 
> Hummmm.... twice what a reasonable capacity tape drive is a bit much!!
> But it is much less than some of the backup solutions we have done for
> clients, with DLT robots and such.
> 
> > It's simply not worth it, IMO.
> 
> It could be worth it, if Licenese violations where at concerned the
> normal allowable damages would far exceed the $4K.
> 
> The real simple solution for this person is to simply go use amanda,
> that is how we eliminated this whole issue!

Amanda doesn't solve the security issue. :(



Nate


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