From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 6 10:55:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zot.ems.mindspring.net (zot.ems.mindspring.net [209.86.81.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB7F155FB for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:55:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robgar@zot.ems.mindspring.net) Received: (from robgar@localhost) by zot.ems.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA36655; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:55:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robgar) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:55:52 -0500 From: robgar To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th Message-ID: <20000106135552.A36638@zot.ems.mindspring.net> References: <20000106121409.A36123@zot.ems.mindspring.net> <1375.947183061@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <1375.947183061@zippy.cdrom.com>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:24:21AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:24:21AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > There are many people who use freebsd in the real world that have been counti > ng > > on 4.0 including support for ipsec and ipv6, ipsec more importantly. We would > > be willing to wait an additional couple of months for this functionality, ple > > Sadly, you've picked a particular bit of technology that we've been > waiting more than a year for. If I had any assurance that a couple of > months would make a difference for KAME, I might even contemplate that > as a strong option, but they don't work to those kinds of schedules. > Based on past experience, it could easily be another year before the > KAME group is ready with everything you're asking for. Should we wait > a year? Clearly not, and we have to make our schedules independently > of the long-term project groups or we'll never release anything. > > - Jordan That is true, and has always been true. Things get done when people are ready to get them done and not before. Rob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message