From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 16 23:26:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449B316A4CE for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 23:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from tx3.oucs.ox.ac.uk (tx3.oucs.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C2443D48 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 23:26:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from scan3.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.166] helo=localhost) by tx3.oucs.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B3VS2-0005NM-NP for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:26:54 +0000 Received: from rx3.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.165]) by localhost (scan3.oucs.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.166]) (amavisd-new, port 25) with ESMTP id 20274-06 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:26:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.161.253]) by rx3.oucs.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B3VS2-0005NH-A0 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:26:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 19203 invoked by uid 1004); 17 Mar 2004 07:26:53 -0000 Received: from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk by gateway by uid 71 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.67. sweep: 2.18/3.79. Clear:RC:1(163.1.161.131):. Processed in 0.301913 secs); 17 Mar 2004 07:26:53 -0000 Received: from dhcp1131.wadham.ox.ac.uk (HELO piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk) (163.1.161.131) by gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Mar 2004 07:26:52 -0000 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.1.20040317072052.03b75788@imap.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@imap.sfu.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:26:50 +0000 To: Scott Long From: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <4057F887.1010709@freebsd.org> References: <20040315134745.1eb201f4.manlix@demonized.net> <20040315125710.GK797@camelot.theinternet.com.au> <20040315140153.30348b1e.manlix@demonized.net> <4057D767.2090107@freebsd.org> <6.0.1.1.1.20040317065013.03b765a0@imap.sfu.ca> <4057F887.1010709@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pkg-based base system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:26:55 -0000 At 07:04 17/03/2004, Scott Long wrote: >The trick here is to know when you start sliding too far down the >slope. It's hard to argue about sendmail, named, gcc, etc, but where do >you stop? Before long, you'll be chopping out nvi One of the packages I created was freebsd-base-vi... > for the people who >favor vim, and so on. ... although I was actually thinking of people who use Emacs. :-) > I'm actually more in favor of keeping FreeBSD as >the 'reference implementation', and encouraging others to make >derivatives off if it that satifies these kinds of needs. But we will >see where things head. Above all, I support your work, but just ask you >to be cautious and not this get carried away. I wasn't even considering making any commits here; I just wanted to throw out some code, point out that we really can split the base system into a number of optional pieces, and see where discussion went. This might be useful for a sysinstall replacement, for one thing. Colin Percival