From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Nov 8 03:03:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA00879 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 03:03:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA00873 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 03:03:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wghhicks@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA23238; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 05:01:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from atl-ga11-13.ix.netcom.com(199.183.210.173) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023236; Sat Nov 8 05:01:07 1997 Message-ID: <3464465C.435B3950@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 06:00:44 -0500 From: Jerry Hicks Reply-To: wghhicks@ix.netcom.com Organization: TerraEarth X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Mini CC: Mike Smith , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x86 gods; advice? Suggestions? References: <19971108014051.33398@micron.mini.net> <199711080954.UAA00629@word.smith.net.au> <19971108021451.30385@micron.mini.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan Mini wrote: [snip, snip] > > Unfortunately, we have no tools for writing realmode code. I was > > perhaps somewhat misleading regarding running the bootstrap in real > > mode; please look at the code for an understanding of the issues. > > I have looked at FreeBSD's boot loading code in detail. As to writing > realmode code, I feel your pain. Currently I am suffering from the same > problem myself. The closest I have come is Bruce's bcc package, which is > *ahem* an entertaining set of utilities. The C compiler has been more annoying > that frustrating. Well, in the bad old days, I would probably have reached for Forth. There is some precedent for this approach over at Sun... I could probably whip up a Forth metacompiler for FreeBSD pretty quickly using PFE as the host. Just a thought. Good Luck, Jerry Hicks jerry_hicks@bigfoot.com