From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG  Mon May  5 16:18:48 2003
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id 9D3BA37B401; Mon,  5 May 2003 16:18:48 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42])
	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id 4D57F43F75; Mon,  5 May 2003 16:18:47 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from ache@pobrecita.freebsd.ru)
Received: from pobrecita.freebsd.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by nagual.pp.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h45NIjrO044650;
	Tue, 6 May 2003 03:18:46 +0400 (MSD)
	(envelope-from ache@pobrecita.freebsd.ru)
Received: (from ache@localhost)
	by pobrecita.freebsd.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h45NIjZ5044647;
	Tue, 6 May 2003 03:18:45 +0400 (MSD)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 03:18:42 +0400
From: "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" <nectar@FreeBSD.org>,
	Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <20030505231837.GA44533@nagual.pp.ru>
References: <20030501182820.GA53641@madman.celabo.org>
	<XFMail.20030501144502.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
	<20030501191027.GA53801@madman.celabo.org>
	<20030505110601.H53365@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de>
	<20030505175426.GA19352@madman.celabo.org> <xzpk7d53zu5.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
	<20030505205051.GA40572@nagual.pp.ru>
	<20030505231135.GA21953@madman.celabo.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <20030505231135.GA21953@madman.celabo.org>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i
Subject: Re: `Hiding' libc symbols
X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture
	<freebsd-arch.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>,
	<mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>,
	<mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 23:18:48 -0000

On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 18:11:35 -0500, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote:
> applications that (IMHO most legitimately, some not) define symbols
> that are technically in some standard's space, such as `snprintf',
> `strlcpy', `accept', `close', ... ?  ``Fix'' them all?  Throw them
> away?

Fix them all. It is as easy as putting
#define printf myprintf
somewhere into headers or even into CC flags. When this task is spreaded 
among corresponding ports maintainers, the number for each of them will be 
not too big.

> What about applications that are already compiled?

Leave them as is. I mean linker time error, not runtime.

> I think such fascism would result in us behaving in a very un-UNIX
> fashion.

And I think just opposite.