From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 23 09:48:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0D4106568F; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A56E8FC30; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.9] (unknown [192.168.4.9]) (Authenticated sender: svein) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 76A6056; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:31:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AB9EAE7.6090108@stillbilde.net> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:31:19 +0200 From: "Svein Skogen (listmail account)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergey Vinogradov References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <20090922135435.36a3d40e@lazybytes.org> <864oqu1urm.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20090923132036.57767deb@lazybytes.org> In-Reply-To: <20090923132036.57767deb@lazybytes.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: =?UTF-8?B?RGFnLUVybGluZyBTbcO4cmdyYXY=?= , current@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org, Ed Schouten Subject: Re: tmux(1) in base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:48:00 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sergey Vinogradov wrote: > В Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:26:05 +0200 > Dag-Erling Smørgrav пишет: > >> Sergey Vinogradov writes: >>> Despite the zsh(1) has appropriate license, it needs autotools and >>> iconv (both GPL AFAIK), so it's hard to include in the base system. >>> The things in the base system I always wondered about are sendmail >>> and bind9. These are pretty heavy, and definitely are not used in >>> every single installation. Maybe someday I'll see sendmail and >>> bind9 in ports instead of base system. And yes, I know about >>> WITHOUT_BIND= and WITHOUT_SENDMAIL= :) >> 1) Even in sh mode, zsh is not sufficiently POSIX-compliant to replace >> our /bin/sh (and I say this as the maintainer of the zsh port) > I think I've made my point unclear: I fully understand that, and I > don't propose zsh(1) replacing sh(1). I just think it would be handy to > have zsh(1) in the base system. Not replacing sh(1), but as one > more piece of software. Wouldn't that bring back (among others) perl into the base? I seem to remember there was some effort spent on removing that a while ago... //Svein - -- - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq56uYACgkQODUnwSLUlKTmowCgna2UmnZCCT/9xYFYCase10Ua 3qcAnjI5MnTA3aL35OTc9uxCOcPRaUFX =da5r -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----