From owner-freebsd-security Mon Feb 21 2:27:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B9C37BBFC; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 02:27:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbryant@ppp-207-193-0-31.kscymo.swbell.net) Received: from ppp-207-193-0-31.kscymo.swbell.net ([207.193.0.2]) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FQ900M3TZPFUV@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:27:19 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by ppp-207-193-0-31.kscymo.swbell.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) id EAA77853; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:27:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:27:05 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Bryant Subject: Re: Strange Spam In-reply-to: To: kris@FreeBSD.org (Kris Kennaway) Cc: dmartin@origen.com, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: kc5vdj@swbell.net Message-id: <200002211027.EAA77853@ppp-207-193-0-31.kscymo.swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-files: The truth is that the X-Files is fiction X-Republican: The best kind!!! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #8: Sat Oct 30 00:56:56 CDT 1999 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply: > On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Richard Martin wrote: > > > Has anyone been seeing spam like this lately? It consists of an > > unintelligible sequence of English words. Seems to be just strings of > > randomly generated words, but I am wondering if there is something more > > sinister going on here. Someone accidentally send us an encoded message? > > I'm wondering if this was an attempt to saturate Echelon by spamming > messages which are likely to trip its detection criteria (someone else > noted the right-wing and technical jargon). The (lack of) sentence > structure would probably flag it as a false positive (the NSA seem to have > some fairly sophisticated language analysis systems working for them from > what's available in the open literature), but the originator might not > have known how to create plausible english garbage messages. > > It's certainly very strange. > > Kris honestly. how much experience do you have in the computer field? echelon is a great idea, but i honestly don't think the computing power exists to filter ALL internet traffic through a centralized location. i have worked in the telecom industry, and i can say that none of the systems at any place i've ever worked at were involved in any such activity. occam's razor dictates that the entire echelon thing is just another commie-style recruitment tactic that right-wing extremist groups use. mail me privately and i'll give irrefutable commie sources for at least 90% of current right wing conspiracy theories. irrefutable because the right wing itself established the source. jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ KC5VDJ - HF to 23cm KC5VDJ@NW0I.#NEKS.KS.USA.NOAM kc5vdj@swbell.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ IC-706MkII - IC-T81A - HTX-202 - HTX-212 - HTX-404 - KPC3+ - PK-232MBX/DSP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message