From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 10 12:07:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC61316A46C for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mh@kernel32.de) Received: from crivens.kernel32.de (crivens.terrorteam.de [81.169.171.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B1113C455 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mh@kernel32.de) Received: from www.terrorteam.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crivens.kernel32.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA30B023F; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:07:32 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:07:32 +0100 From: Marian Hettwer To: Aryeh M. Friedman In-Reply-To: <4786058F.8080101@gmail.com> References: <4786058F.8080101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42af13c0754be09eaa392751df755d02@localhost> X-Sender: mh@kernel32.de User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1-rc2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Wilko Bulte , Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Dominic Fandrey Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:07:34 -0000 On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:46:23 -0500, "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: > I decided to elaborate slightly on the previous reply.... > > One thing that FOSS (BSD or GPL) has historical had issues doing > cleanly is seperating free software from free beer. The first being > a very important goal and the second a unfair side effect of thinking > that open source by definition means free use of the products. Yes > the source should be avaible to everyone but as far I can tell that > does not automatically and should not translate into not having some > responibility to the community that created the project in the first > place.... my approach (along with 3 other small software vendors) is > to have a requirement to contribute back to the community in some form > (in work or help support those doing the work), namely it is free > software but not free beer. > Please stop this. FreeBSD is BSD licenced and if you want to start another holy war about wether this is good or bad, do it on freebsd-chat. Or even better, stop here, right now. This really has nothing to do with the thread itself and with this mailing list in special. Thanks. ./Marian