From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jan 20 23:18:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA00570 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 23:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00540 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 23:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from katiska.clinet.fi (root@katiska.clinet.fi [194.100.0.4]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.7.3/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA27087 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 09:17:59 +0200 (EET) Received: (news@localhost) by katiska.clinet.fi (8.7.3/8.6.4) id JAA13139; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 09:17:59 +0200 (EET) To: clinet-list-freebsd-hackers@clinet.fi Path: usenet From: hsu@clinet.fi (Heikki Suonsivu) Newsgroups: clinet.list.freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: SYSQUEST disks... Date: 21 Jan 1996 09:18:03 +0200 Organization: Clinet, Espoo, Finland Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <199601180923.UAA05818@godzilla.zeta.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: newzetor.clinet.fi In-reply-to: Bruce Evans's message of 18 Jan 1996 12:11:27 +0200 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In article <199601180923.UAA05818@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Bruce Evans writes: newfs has too many (in)convenient defaults that stop it from working in plain files and devices: ... df has too many (in)convenient defaults that stop it from working on plain files and devices: ... $ df /tmp/a [... unwanted output for the device that /tmp/za is on] fsck has too many (in)convenient defaults that stop it from working on plain files and devices: ... These problems can be avoided for regular files by using the vn driver. The vn driver doesn't seem to work for stacking devices. Are there any real reasons for these restrictions? If a file is newfs'd, geometry options should be forced, but otherwise newfs should not be wise-ass and tell what I want to do. fsck and df have even less reason for complaints? -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi work +358-0-4375209 fax -4555276 home -8031121