From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 25 18:29:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC1D16A40F for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382D943D6A for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:29:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9PIVHTa010629; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k9PITDAd007284; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:29:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20061025123354.GD24998@schottelius.org> References: <20061018141753.GA12559@schottelius.org> <45372B7C.9010201@aleborg.se> <20061023113333.GA22430@schottelius.org> <20061023194301.I96174@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20061024083207.GA2910@schottelius.org> <04240A60-27E8-4064-A80D-83731E345DF0@mac.com> <20061025123354.GD24998@schottelius.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <57C1FCEE-F0B1-4429-91D8-4F372F07AF7A@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:29:12 -0700 To: Nico -telmich- Schottelius X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: freeBSD List Subject: Re: ACL: Default and other problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:29:21 -0000 On Oct 25, 2006, at 5:33 AM, Nico -telmich- Schottelius wrote: >> This constraint makes the problem impossible to solve. Either you >> are interested in the impossible, or you aren't really looking to >> solve the problem using standard Unix mechanisms... > > Actually, I am really not looking for 'old Unix mechanism' to solve > that issue, because I think ACLs are definetly made for this kind of > problem. OK. > I've been using ACLs on Linux for some years now and I am really > wondering why simply applying the default ACLs is such a problem > in fbsd. > > As far as I know, ACLs are considered stable in FreeBSD, aren't they? 5.3 was the earliest stable release of 5.x; the TrustedBSD project has been importing improvements and so forth since 5.3 was released. You might want to retry your tests with FreeBSD 5.5 or 6.2 and see whether things have improved since then. > I am really wondering who to contact for the issues I've reported > on [0]. > > Thanks for any hints, > > Nico > > [0]: http://home.schottelius.org/~nico/freebsd/acl/ You should probably use send-pr to file a bug report, and list your test-cases in it. If you can write a patch to improve or fix any mis- behavior by the tools dealing with ACLs, that will help... -- -Chuck