From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15:17:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E04D15628 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA93183; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:16:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199909162216.SAA93183@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Amancio Hasty Cc: The Hermit Hacker , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Radio Station ... References: <199909162205.PAA05268@rah.star-gate.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:05:29 PDT." <199909162205.PAA05268@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:16:54 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Respectfully, this is just the sort of thing which will get FreeBSD a bad reputation. The vast majority of end-users that do streaming media application use either Real or Windows Media player. The folks running the radio station are likely not interesting in doing technology evaluation or testing of interesting new clients; they probably only want the j-random user out there with his windows box to listen to their radio station. They don't give a whiz about multicast or unicast; they just want to click on the link and have noise come out of the speaker. Ideally, they'd like to use the stuff already on their PC, and that's Real or Media Player. Commercially, content providers don't care about multicast either, other than as an optimization to help reach some of their audience more cost effectively. They are more interested in getting eyeballs and ear, regardless of the delivery mechanism. It's just exactly this point which is the reason you don't see widespread commercial deployment of "mbone" applications. louie > Yes they are braind dead apps which you can use the biggest > issue with ip multicast is if the win boxes can receive ip multicast > and thats a function of their funky device driver/card and if > your network is ip multicast enable. > > for free win loose ip multicast apps check out: > > http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software > > > Also check out this review: > > http://www.wnet.ca/multicast/icastrev.htm > > > > -- > > Amancio Hasty > hasty@rah.star-gate.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message