From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Wed Feb 20 08:10:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA3414EA325 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 08:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from pv50p00im-ztdg10021101.me.com (pv50p00im-ztdg10021101.me.com [17.58.6.44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7F236C60B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 08:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from [192.168.150.41] (148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee [80.235.52.148]) by pv50p00im-ztdg10021101.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AC5E5180150; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 08:10:00 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r344316 - head/sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common/fs/zfs From: Toomas Soome In-Reply-To: <20190220075613.GC84455@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:09:57 +0200 Cc: Shawn Webb , Pawel Jakub Dawidek , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <98312B69-2AC4-461A-8085-D6BAC68D453D@me.com> References: <201902192335.x1JNZu53080578@repo.freebsd.org> <20190219234328.wrmteippr6vbg2fr@mutt-hbsd> <20190220075613.GC84455@FreeBSD.org> To: Alexey Dokuchaev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-02-20_07:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=426 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1812120000 definitions=main-1902200060 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E7F236C60B X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.97 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.972,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 08:10:10 -0000 > On 20 Feb 2019, at 09:56, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >=20 > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 06:43:28PM -0500, Shawn Webb wrote: >> At the risk of painting a bikeshed a lovely color of neon purple, I'm >> curious about if/how these types of commits get merged upstream to >> (OpenZFS|Illumos|ZFS On Linux|where ever ZFS upstream is now|I'm very >> confused|is anyone else confused where upstream is?). >>=20 >> Who is upstream? Is work like this going to remain as a downstream >> patch to ZFS? Or is FreeBSD going to work to upstream this type of >> work? >=20 > I've always felt that we should've become upstream to everyone else > the moment we knew Oracle would eat Sun (20 April 2009), and never > understood why it didn't happen and now, ten years later, we're = talking > about ZFS on fucking Linux becoming our upstream. Something'd got = very > wrong here and I'd like to know what and why. >=20 >> I hope my curiousity doesn't offend anyone. ;) >=20 > Not at all, I'm also confused and curious. >=20 > ./danfe >=20 The genuine lack of developers and development. If the updates do happen = in ZoL (for zfs), it only means the developers find it easier to work = there. rgds, toomas=