From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 01:49:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF43106566C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 01:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C988FC13 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 01:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2611106ywe.13 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 18:49:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; bh=I2iKH/nQLsJK83r58DzJEbdkl/KYtg1tVRHk+lGJBRU=; b=C8FSFVlvg3H7UgakxYETP8HV7ZxaaFb1tgHBtfw53WGjhDwo9br+bG7pFYwvzsYF/t WWc9nIovV9Usk8pT22aYrH2H69V9a+FtRrRhNtPi9UrgtIx4RmSz2crcTLmEbkPMfLOL VwC+zmtqZqtPkNpcdLQcgkS9LJHIArqXNaD6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZmkHe7cgGryLVZcrWUUnDdfz7ItZ+03hYbju1m3UP8CP9b9Hh1zVk8WjAUr2MEHxwD irn6L6o289jhJrGJ31ey2QvDd3uowMz/LSRve8zD5U21Fwol1L0L3ywPeMCUZ9imdGhf cT07pOU1L0oZwi35CBs6V/+D7i3HvKRjKVdbA= Received: by 10.100.106.1 with SMTP id e1mr14552085anc.15.1241486937091; Mon, 04 May 2009 18:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.140? (pool-68-160-222-187.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.222.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d24sm945417and.1.2009.05.04.18.28.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 04 May 2009 18:28:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hernandez To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <49FF8F2E.60800@highperformance.net> References: <49FF8F2E.60800@highperformance.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 21:28:50 -0400 Message-Id: <1241486930.10923.13.camel@Euterpe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: End of Life is Meaningless X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 01:49:03 -0000 On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 17:58 -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > That should be read as "End of Life" is meaningless. Not end of "Life > is Meaningless." Life is still meaningless, as is this post if you > disagree. > > It mystifies me that there is this recent tendency for people to get > concerned about EOL. "What do I do?" My answer, "Do nothing." Just > because a FreeBSD version is EOL doesn't mean you have to stop using > it. It doesn't mean that your particular version is suddenly prone to > downtime. It doesn't mean you can't install patches even though the > secteam won't be updating CVS. It doesn't mean you can't continue to > develop applications for a major version. > > EOL is a tool for FreeBSD to manage its own house. It is in no way a > directive on how you should manage your house. Queue someone still > running 2.1.5 with uptime stats. Come on. You know you want to show off. > > To the people who have to manage limited resources and must therefore > implement an EOL policy. I commend you on the balancing act. Good on ya > mates. Your doing a fine job. > I understand that some systems can't afford downtime for an upgrade, but why not upgrade? A few minutes of uptime to take advantage of the hard work that the developers poured into making another release can't be a bad thing can it? I agree that there's certainly no need to panic, but in situations where a little downtime is acceptable I wouldn't opt to stay with the old system. Just my .02 :) --Mike H