From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 28 17:31:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1531065692 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-111.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-111.bluehost.com [69.89.18.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 868D78FC12 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27637 invoked by uid 0); 28 Oct 2009 17:31:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2009 17:31:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ZZeekL14KwEGonSbRkQI6ZQxxWoJ4PcpxUC3SRcrhVHXiCdqJ+JAi62W4MJaQ28oFiB0waILVKpLHnCpZt3cUvLp+IzgE+xVW76Jn6NuyddbFR2uCVZxc1u/C7fPD3K+; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N3CND-0006G9-1o; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:31:55 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:24:06 -0600 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:24:06 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091028172406.GC1890@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gonzalo Nemmi References: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> <200910271703.12828.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20091027213134.GA85815@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200910272046.00289.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20091028021417.GA93608@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E13BgyNx05feLLmH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091028021417.GA93608@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Gonzalo Nemmi Subject: Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:31:56 -0000 --E13BgyNx05feLLmH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 02:14:17AM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: >=20 > I'll speculate as to the reasons: >=20 > NetBSD: probably wanted something smaller footprint-wise. >=20 > OpenBSD: wanted something more secure. Those both sound like great reasons. >=20 > Dragonfly: started afresh, so could replace it without many headaches. Considering what DragonFly's new MTA does (and doesn't do), I'm pretty sure "smaller footprint" was among the reasons for it to use something other than Sendmail, too. >=20 > Saying that, it would be neat if it was taken out of base and replaced > with something minimal that could cope with the demands of cron and > not much else. Then the user is expected to install a MTA of their > choice out of ports. >=20 > That would mean less code in base and fewer security advisories. OpenSMTPD looks promising. If it turns out to be as nice as it seems it will, I wouldn't be opposed to making it part of base instead of Sendmail, but of course it's entirely possible that I've overlooked some potential problems. The licensing is right, too (unlike, perhaps, that of Postfix). --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --E13BgyNx05feLLmH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrofjYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX9SwCfVEQ2TVzmM8e2d6Ig5Pu6L9rR eDAAoOOmUTJdv+16NgluDPtyIHYcyNX/ =20ui -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E13BgyNx05feLLmH--