From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 31 13:25:36 2009 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78DB106566C for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D3D8FC12 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:25:35 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArobABszPEuWZcBC/2dsb2JhbACBLoI7wmeNOoNbVgQ Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net with SMTP; 31 Dec 2009 23:55:34 +1030 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 1 Jan 2010 00:28:45 +1100 Received: from smtp.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.32] RDNS failed) by mail1.pdconsec.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 1 Jan 2010 00:25:02 +1100 Received: from [10.14.6.41] ([150.101.192.69] helo=[10.14.6.41]) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 1 Jan 2010 00:28:44 +1100 Message-ID: <4B3CA62E.7060700@pdconsec.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:25:02 +1100 From: David Rawling <djr@pdconsec.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nenad Mihajlovic <nenad@venturis.hu> References: <c7c83c41e096444fdaf5dffed521dc5f@mail.venturis.hu> In-Reply-To: <c7c83c41e096444fdaf5dffed521dc5f@mail.venturis.hu> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2009 13:25:02.0869 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8C52450:01CA8A1C] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mike Jeays <mike.jeays@rogers.com>, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Hardware virtualization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:25:36 -0000 On 31/12/2009 9:00 AM, Nenad Mihajlovic wrote: > Hello, > > For the Intel processors VT support, you can check up on > > http://ark.intel.com/VTList.aspx > go for no less than dual-core 8400. > > and for the AMD desktop processors, here: > > http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx > and some of new X4 phenoms. > > Either AMD or Intel, both are good choice, we have run numerous environments > here without any problem. > For the serious application you might want to go for the Xeon or Opteron > family, though. > > Regards, > Nenad > > > ----------------original message----------------- > from: "Mike Jeays" mike.jeays@rogers.com > to: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:06:38 -0500 > ------------------------------------------------- > > > >> I am about to buy a new desktop, and I want to make sure that hardware >> virtualization is included. In one or two local computer stores, I get a >> > blank > >> look when I ask about this. Intel seems provide it on only certain chip >> > models > >> and they don't seem be very forthcoming, Perhaps it is better to buy an >> > AMD > >> product? >> >> Any hints, please? >> _______________________________________________ >> Intel processors are documented at http://processorfinder.intel.com/ - from what I can see, the following Intel processors have VT (Hardware Virtualization): * All E6xxx series Core 2 Duo * All Q6xxx series Core 2 Quad * All E8xxx series Core 2 Duo * All Q9xxx series Core 2 Quad * All Q8xxx series Core 2 Quad *except Q8200* * All Core i7 processors * All Core i5 processors * All Xeon 3000, 3200, 5000, 5500, 7000 series processors As far as I know, the following do not: * Core 2 Duo 4000, 5000, 7000 series processors * Pentium Dual Core E5000 and lower series processors * Celeron processors Even more critical than the CPU is the board - without BIOS support, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Dave. P.S. 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