From nobody Fri Sep 2 08:25:10 2022 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTP id 4MJrYP06BXz4bMxn for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 08:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@dino.sk) Received: from cm0.netlabit.sk (mailhost.netlabit.sk [84.245.65.72]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTPS id 4MJrYM4GHXz3kqc for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 08:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@dino.sk) Received: from zeta.dino.sk ([84.245.95.254]) (AUTH: LOGIN milan, TLS: TLSv1.3,256bits,TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by cm0.netlabit.sk with ESMTPSA id 0000000000F140B6.000000006311BDB4.00003A57; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 10:24:20 +0200 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 10:25:10 +0200 From: Milan Obuch To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended... Message-ID: <20220902102510.562724ee@zeta.dino.sk> In-Reply-To: <8rn2-cii8-wny@FreeBSD.org> References: <20220902080913.3049eb0e@zeta.dino.sk> <8rn2-cii8-wny@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.19.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4MJrYM4GHXz3kqc X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-ports@dino.sk designates 84.245.65.72 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-ports@dino.sk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.25 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.949]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5578, ipnet:84.245.64.0/18, country:SK]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dino.sk]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Fri, 02 Sep 2022 10:01:19 +0200 Jan Beich wrote: > Milan Obuch writes: > > > Hi, > > > > as I am doing today some maintenance, I am encountering this error. > > This would not be worth mentioning, it is easily overridable by > > defining ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM, just I got this error on a > > 13.1-STABLE systems built relatively recently, one of them is built > > on June 3, 2022... this is extremely prematurely in my eyes. Note > > this does not happen on 12.3-STABLE system built on April 10, 2022. > > > > Check __FreeBSD_version in /usr/include/sys/param.h or > /usr/include/osreldate.h If it's lower than 1301000 you've got a > pilot error. > Thanks. I'll check. And what about 12.3-STABLE? Where is this version constant defined in ports tree? How can this version be inspected using just binaries installed? > > If there really is some important issue in recent 13.1-STABLE > > system, I think it should be mentioned and announced somewhere. > > -CURRENT and -STABLE are moving targets, so ports/ only support the > bleeding edge but not any arbitrarily old snapshot (individual > maintainers can extend support for a few months but it's not > required). If you can't upgrade src/ then don't upgrade ports/ or > *locally* revert breaking changes in either tree until your blockers > are resolved. Alternatively, -RELEASEs and/or /quarterly have less > churn. I know. It was just a bit of surprise it happened on system built just ~ three months old. I am building system using recent src snapshots, so basically build date is equal date src tree was fetched. > Note, -STABLE has less QA than -CURRENT by pkg-fallout@. Only > /quarterly is tested via > https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/?all=1&type=qat And the recent 13.0 > cleanup (in 2a09e5b4da7c) didn't propagated to /quarterly yet. I am using stable/12 and stable/13 branches for src (ok, main for some kernel development, this is not the case here) and main for ports. So yes, some problems may occur, but I do not remember anything serious for years. Also, I forgot one thing - I use jails to separate various part of the whole environment, so maintenance is simpler. Probably this has some connection with problem being observed as occasionally jail version can be older than host's one, but this is not the case here, I think. Nevertheless, I'll check this possibility as well. Regards, Milan