From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 21 19:39:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA16271 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 19:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA16265 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 19:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.6/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA21948; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 19:38:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612220338.TAA21948@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Stephen Hovey cc: Alan Batie , fbsdlist@revelstone.jvm.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UUNET vs Netcom In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:34:54 EST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 19:38:12 -0800 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > We left UUNET for sprint. UUNET had much better customer service, but >> > with sprint we rarily need any customer service whereas with UUNET we did >> > (they dropped alot etc) >> >> On the other hand, Sprint seems to have a lot of routing problems... > >I dont agree. Sprint is often blamed for routing problems, but most >problems, when tracerouted etc were at MAE points. And places like >ftp.cdrom.com no long route thru them etc. The routing issues with Sprint seem to have improved a little, but it wasn't but just a few months ago that the Sprint network flapped so badly that it was usuable. I think these problems have mostly been isolated and dealt with (there was a flakey router in Dallas/FW that was lots of trouble, plus various IOS problems in DC and Stockton). I was very happy when my ISP here changed to default to MCI rather than Sprint...especially since MCI had just done some major upgrades that helped things a bunch. CRL peers with Sprint at the PB-NAP to avoid congestion that Sprint has at MAE-west (and probably for other reasons, such as load balancing their own circuits). Last time I looked, MCI peered with Sprint on the west coast through a dedicated circuit. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project