Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 10:11:53 -0500 From: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd Message-ID: <c99cde9e-211a-56ef-ee32-ff68765bba22@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20200611143046.2f97b54a@archlinux> References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <20200609120136.00005b3c@seibercom.net> <2393a1e0-b073-950a-78be-9f57d8e9934b@anatoli.ws> <e1f6623a-3b3c-a43e-446a-d41f20f69418@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200610063555.00003707@seibercom.net> <82F57D0D-E0EC-49F7-824E-20A296C9F549@kicp.uchicago.edu> <250b853a-b436-0e99-b05c-9abd6b6019ef@panix.com> <20200611070630.2cb42786.freebsd@edvax.de> <EA869B95-9D98-4ECC-9371-C57A0035BC32@kreme.com> <20200611091449.383e1d83@archlinux> <53a6833e-db63-2395-4d2e-f05a9b1fb269@boxsci.com> <CAEJNuHyxQ=Bm89wQ_8jPdmSXRDP5zPyHZYFi1XS%2BH6h1mAJZ_A@mail.gmail.com> <CAGBxaX=V7Jk1LUrsw8KjwcrXNrHMBim2gVe6dTAtR6C6wBPz2w@mail.gmail.com> <20200611112418.0bb0c896b685c84ed8d6a8f6@sohara.org> <CAGBxaXmkDd4h7YkrwkZACM9vzBY5p3L9WqRTBmFtUUBMd_HhGA@mail.gmail.com> <20200611135639.0c07500e@archlinux> <36a71c5c-ccf0-d28d-c6c1-1d9c80873a12@yuripv.dev> <CAGBxaXkb96QKzkA1cnmdKfAarb0Wf6xrbd-kYG5eESa0TtG_Gw@mail.gmail.com> <20200611143046.2f97b54a@archlinux>
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On 6/11/20 7:30 AM, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 08:15:04 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:03 AM Yuri Pankov <yuripv@yuripv.dev> wrote: >> >>> Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: >>>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 06:49:47 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >>>>> As to the comment of how common top posting is or not almost >>>>> every web based MUA defaults to it >>>> >>>> Could you mention a few FLOSS BSD or Linux MUAs that by default >>>> sets the cursor above the quoted text? >>> >>> FWIW, Thunderbird does that by default in new accounts, you have to >>> configure it to do otherwise. >> >> So does every other GUI/web MUA. I don't know why it is so hard for >> the FreeBSD community to get that conventions have changed (for better >> or worse I don't know but they have). I have even had people complain >> about not top-posting because "I can't find your reply" and thus >> almost the entire world (except for a few technical mailing lists) >> either accepts or encourages top-posting. > > I seriously doubt that there are a lot GUI or TUI MUAs available for > BSD or Linux that do that by default. Just mentioning one, Thunderbird > and then claiming every other does, too, is weak. I'm not aware of one. > Evolution doesn't, Sylpheed doesn't, Claws-Mail doesn't. IIRC KMail and > Wanderlust didn't when I used them. Probably no other does, I just > mentioned those I'm still using or I used a while back. I agree, and would add that my mail client does put my reply above the message I respond by default. Nonetheless, I learned to avoid top posting. It is easy: if you put some effort into reading and comprehending message, you can put a bit of effort into following etiquette of the mailing list you sending your message to. The logic of me having my reply above message by default is: I usually communicate person-to-person with people I do something for. And my latest reply is the most important thing I want them to read. Occasionally, people send multi issue/question mail, which makes it harder to track what was done what wasn't. And in this case I have to send "in line" responses to them. Still, mail clients I use are fully configurable in what they do by default, and I do go through whole their configuration when I add account. Too many "garbage" settings are made "on" by default these days in many mail clients and web browsers. Even coming from honorable Mozilla foundation. Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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