From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 20:56:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A97D7F7; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x231.google.com (mail-we0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AD2520A9; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f177.google.com with SMTP id w62so3685230wes.22 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 13:56:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=9K3hT73XcHHusGoOuLvq9Sci35NCYXZ4EFucKDA11Hw=; b=fFQreMy64YZUrxM4+xd8KPd3SbwaTOj6zB9NX1EAbBMwAcPx4sUPKw2k7Gy1037Bsz LjteZEKLK0hGDi/QyVSlmUBdomNWSC2CpE3iByNBe4BZXnvh21L49bk6iwmr0l5hwfEm GytYF5J8bzE1ADn36uFNMV1vbNUNPJ4Yc9Xo4gdK4VjfdNjbXXaG4814JtnCKW7luFip VHqr/82DM652VHzcimjz3kkWVc86oR6JQk6XqUIg2bRR1Uj73G1AdaGwGJVfE8xF6psJ vb2a0rekDwdduXfLMEyiYn6wJ7KF176v/kG8necv1/YnOcf5VVgFdUxbLlXeEkXfe+fN PzKA== X-Received: by 10.194.219.70 with SMTP id pm6mr48087854wjc.53.1405630574351; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 13:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net ([2001:41d0:8:db4c::1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id go4sm8755321wjc.39.2014.07.17.13.56.12 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Jul 2014 13:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:56:11 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? Message-ID: <20140717205611.GD28314@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <53C82EC4.8060304@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: Craig Rodrigues , Navdeep Parhar , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Alberto Mijares , freebsd-current Current , ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:56:17 -0000 --TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:21:32PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar wrote: > > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote: > >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wr= ote: > >>>> Hi! > >>>> > >>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box > >>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it > >>>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a > >>>> problem; > >>> > >>> > >>> No. Please NEVER do that! The user must be able to edit the files and > >>> start the service by himself. > >> > >> Cool, so what's the single line command needed to type in to start a > >> given package service? > > > > Aren't sysrc(8) and service(8) for this kind of stuff? >=20 > Yup, and if the default is going to be off, then you want the > instructions to be "type this in", not "edit this file." >=20 > There's odd things too, like "oh look I installed xorg, but then I > can't run it without enabling hald/dbus, then starting it.. oh wait, > no mouse, so I have to reboot for them to come up right" kind of crap. >=20 yes that is why xorg needs to have devd instead of hal support by default :) regards, Bapt --TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlPIOGsACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ez4cACfYIpNaHaY4mrDyleryWRlWXhE fjAAnjmHqQUmgaViMFZfq2Cwo6U99+MX =5T8S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V--