From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Feb 6 7: 0:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC9B37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:00:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A75F43FB1 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:00:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lomion@mac.com) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h16F0fXc019365 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mac.com ([67.98.154.9]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H9W71500.5RR; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:00:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:00:37 -0500 Subject: Re: GGI (was: Project Status) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=fixed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: "Pedro F. Giffuni" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG To: Narvi From: Larry Sica In-Reply-To: <20030206155440.M43637-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Rfc2646-Fix: 1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 09:55 AM, Narvi wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, [iso-8859-1] Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > >> --- Narvi ha scritto: > >> >> ... >>> he is just plain wrong. In fact, looking into the >>> very issue of 'linux on >>> desktop' on kernel traffic is stupid. The overlap >>> between people who have >>> a clue about linux kernel and linux desktop is very >>> small. >>> >> And that's part of the problem. Everyone kept thinking >> that making UNIX a good desktop was a matter of having >> Star Office and Wordperfect. No clue there :(. >> > > True - but you don't want to try it without having an office > suite either, or your target audience is going to be pitifully > small. But its stillonly a relatively small part of what you > need to have a desktop. > >>> Oh - and I actually work for a company that does >>> unix on desktop & is >>> going to release a linux desktop. >>> >> >> Good luck.. honest! It's a tough market. >> > > Thanx 8-) I know - but being a large company helps a bit though. > > Btw,its interesting there is nobody putting together a coherent > well-designed BSD based desktop as a single package. While there > is most probably no money in this, it would be an interesting > excerice/project. > This is probably the most important aspect of any desktop. A coherent system. A desktop needs consistency, ease of use and applications. Sometime too much choice is just as bad, or worse, than no choice at all. I want to be able to setup a system that will look and feel the same for 99% of cases. I want to be able to use quicken, or word, or that cool photo app. I want my itunes, my instant messenger. That is what people say. Most don't have the time or care to get deeply involved in their computer, they want it to be just another electronic device they use, like a vcr, or a tv. So the question becomes, does FreeBSD as a whole want to target this user audience? Is there the collective will to make that a reality? If the answer is no, I would think resources are best directed elsewhere perhaps? - --Larry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 (Build 349) Beta iQA/AwUBPkJ4mOeV8VtPCL3dEQJOOACgtbYYSIpzWSIYWajz0b8SAqTCrYYAoIbv xqGiEys1ad/X51fjyd3F8wKa =ZBEV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message