From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 3 20:51:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078CC16A418 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7731613C467 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so3338419nfb for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:51:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gth66V1XdeoZWncLWMEWo589azCnofh5mO0MHG0oauI=; b=CvAe88RfqP+3OL7u58mwAhHLFHG8R6V+1sjDWmDIHT509PnoK9vr5yEFS201XKObl2pjEjAOqIvduDs+GH+JKh+UkY0KbZUVj2neJbQbgDWw77dupFfyiGMA36Ms2oqXa8utntKG9n/raP5lDsD2hbPlnbFScpr9EAuc+MlsjOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P8rEk00wDzWBaJf7O0V4vbWmdFfKBER2fN6N/dBKkhDuW70Sm+8uNA+R2GbFKFklEGlVPD3jXfL+Lcdw4Pest1eHOFE09Yo90Cahe5AiRWoN5wW0KZLYlpoJLZCQCjthSv7HC8vk7l9iujnD3w0COjCMtC6WPTYkqGq1PbAh1wE= Received: by 10.86.65.11 with SMTP id n11mr944565fga.1191444671913; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.100.19 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2a41acea0710031351m2101d49fo91579c8858316f51@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:51:11 -0700 From: "Jack Vogel" To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: <53519.1191442261@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2a41acea0710031306p22d66379oc6575ad9ff5ea99d@mail.gmail.com> <53519.1191442261@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: RFC: Capability addition for IEEE 1588 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:51:14 -0000 On 10/3/07, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <2a41acea0710031306p22d66379oc6575ad9ff5ea99d@mail.gmail.com>, "Jack Vogel" writes > : > > >> When I talked to HP's licensing department, there were a $1k licensefee > >> for anything IEEE1588 related and their message was that even if > >> the FreeBSD foundation got such a license, the users would still > >> have to have one as well if they compiled the source code or some > >> such nonsense. > > > >What source code was being talked about? I'm not talking about > >anything userland, and my driver is just turning on a hardware > >feature, I can't imagine HP having anything to do with it, but I > >double check internally. > > They seem to think they have a patent on doing things that way, > no matter what hardware or software you use. > > If Intel chips have hw-support for timestamping, somebody at intel > must have thought about the patent thing. > > But as I said, if that can be resolved, it should certainly go in. This is a feature that will be coming, its not in any hardware you can buy today, presumeably Intel dealt with the patent thing, but I have already sent internal email checking on the whole matter. I'll followup when I'm things are clarified. Jack