From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 01:32:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC3A1065670 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 01:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A5E8FC17 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 01:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so1188324vws.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:32:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+CPb70dgLYE9Dqjou4RPnq1YIYU/FeWlWTExA9UMN7k=; b=CdULQ8N5NEmWro64s0fK62LrFgCYlHzizhJp2eTGQq8lhzZcAmuPTrcnQTIel57ZZf Z9scMLZyVZiZjBxSgDxUu1xrJuGJZwaLm0JWgkQibk23enEmDz7nHiHWDAwmAqKcXqPS nWG1sno6FOCzSZ56ve1+OVtl5/VAc+2Mt1qC0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.177.195 with SMTP id cs3mr2900029vdc.185.1312592672615; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.172.18 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:04:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:04:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: Kevin Oberman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New installation script X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:32:09 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > I have installed 9-Beta1 using the new installation tool and I am > generally happy with it. > The new dialog cause me to need a few more key-strokes because I was > so used to the > old behavior, but it really is more intuitive and I would not want to > see the old behavior > restored. I'll get used to it soon. > > I do have a couple of issues with the new installation tool, though. > 1. After completing the partition design I am presented with the > option to "Save" the > partitions. It is not at all cleared that "Save" actually creates the > partitions and newfses > the file systems. I suggest changing "Save" to "Commit" or Execute". > These are far > clearer and more frightening. "Save" sounds too safe, not like you are > about to update > basic disk structure and may be about to make any data on the disk unusable. > > 2. I was installing 9 into an existing set of partitions. (I > understand that this is NOT > typical.) First the system asks me about adding a partition. Oops! I > selected the only > option that was not clearly wrong, "Cancel". I was not at all sure > that it was what I > wanted, but it was. I have no idea how to improve this and it's > probably not worth > spending much time think about it. But the next step was confusing. > > I selected each of the existing partitions that I was going to use and > selected modify to > enter the name of the partition (/, /var, /usr, /tmp). I then quit and > selected the not > scarey "Save". I proceeded, but thought the "Save" was rather fast. > Then the install failed > because the partitions were already populated. I ended up re-booting > and then going > through each partition and deleting it and then selecting the slice > and creating it again. > While not a big deal, it seemed like the Modify to name the partitions > should have > triggered the newfs that was not done. > > I think my first point is pretty important. The second is far less so. > > The install went pretty well and I am generally very pleased with the > new installer. It's > certainly an improvement over the old one! Thanks to the folks who worked on it. One of the things that's still a problem as well (since you're talking about it here) is that the partition editor assumes that all partitions are properly formatted, etc, when specifying just a mountpoint. One needs to trash the MBR / GPT metadata and start over from the beginning. GPT partitions have issues too with incomplete partition schemes (i.e. user deletes a GPT partition out of an existing setup, etc) because unfortunately the "boot" partition gets created improperly the 2nd+ time around and/or gets created multiple times for some whacky reason (I don't know why this happened, but it did!). Thanks, -Garrett