From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 9 23:19:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47804106564A for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-117.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-117.bluehost.com [69.89.22.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 174158FC13 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 5000 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2009 23:19:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2009 23:19:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=iwUPX71eZjAbrMTW54pofE3qEPHtOdL0iRWDNPNHTaXaQe22p7yRuvOI6Yz22pX+c8WPbXs2vZRFRHl/Y9cnnmorG21Fmh6Eya5CQtNvHFy5kl8ZR5sVFObto0r2/WxC; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MEAb1-0003ZH-TL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:19:12 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:13:47 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:13:47 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090609231347.GA57940@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4096aedd0906040923p6288e319ia083f47c7ccc29e1@mail.gmail.com> <64c038660906042034v43b340c6jf1e001ac9941f1f6@mail.gmail.com> <20090608014629.GA9091@kokopelli.hydra> <20090608044543.0c6d4602@scorpio> <20090608205549.GA53856@kokopelli.hydra> <20090608173112.13bbc8a1@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090608173112.13bbc8a1@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: ISP questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:19:13 -0000 --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 05:31:12PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:55:49 -0600 > Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > >I try to learn from others' mistakes to reduce the likelihood that I > >will be forced to learn from my own. If you really want to learn from > >your own mistakes, though, go ahead and ignore the instances where > >GoDaddy has screwed over other customers, and just keep using it in > >willful ignorance until the day when your luck changes. I guess > >that's your prerogative. >=20 > I believe you are over generalizing it. I have had two occasions where > FBSD crashed and I lost a considerable amount of data. According to > your statement, I should just say screw FBSD and move on to another OS. FreeBSD doesn't have volition. Using FreeBSD isn't a matter of trusting the software's intentions. GoDaddy executives and managers *do* have volition. Using GoDaddy *is* a matter of trusting the executives' and managers' intentions. Next, we'll be comparing apples and . . . windows, I guess, since oranges at least are fruit. Pun intended. >=20 > Seriously though, if they have X number of clients and only .1% of them > have experienced a problem, is there really a problem? I don't know > since I don't have statistics on GoDaddy. Obviously you do. Would you > be kind enough to post them so I could inspect them myself. If 0.111% of customers are unfortunate enough to end up with something entirely beyond their control causing something to happen that can be imagined to be a violation of GoDaddy's partially undisclosed policies, and 0.1% of GoDaddy customers end up getting their domain names held hostage to the tune of several hundred dollars as a result of those incidents entirely beyond their control, that means that about 90% of people GoDaddy has any way of exploiting, extorting, or otherwise screwing over in a manner defensible in court are getting exactly that treatment. (Note that I'm making up numbers here, just like you.) So . . . you're basically gambling that you'll never be the victim of circumstances that would allow GoDaddy to figure it can get away with screwing you over. I prefer to gamble on other things. Your mileage may vary. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkou7KsACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUjBQCg04EpJHfcrlsvxg9zRKuy7o1Y KV8AoNlM2Y1afKdrLbzsrHhao5pNtW/H =HCLC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK--