Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:54:02 -0500 From: Alex Goncharov <alex-goncharov@comcast.net> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: An upgrade to xorg-server-1.5.3_1,1/libxcb-1.1.93 Message-ID: <E1LRHbu-0002pF-TB@daland.home>
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I upgraded my X Window system today, with these instructions in mind:
# /usr/ports/UPDATING
20090124:
sysutils/hal has been updated and should now properly detect
mice for use in Xorg. Use of AllowEmptyInput should no longer
be needed for most users and moused should now work fine.
20090123:
Server 1.5.3 also really wants to configure its input devices
via hald. This is causing some issues with moused and
/dev/sysmouse.
My system is 7.1-STABLE, and I did a full rebuild of relevant ports;
my window manager is `twm'.
Based on my experience, I have a few questions:
1. Up until this upgrade, I have always avoided using HAL, setting
"WITHOUT_HAL = yes" in my /etc/make.conf file.
Today's rebuild with this setting resulted in the mouse (and I
think keyboard, too) not working in X. Following the 20090123
note, I commented out the WITHOUT_HAL option in /etc/make.conf and
rebuild everything again, modified `etc/rc.conf' appropriately --
and the X input is working fine again.
So, is HAL a mandatory component (from the X11 perspective) now?
If so, these lines in `x11-servers/xorg-server/Makefile' don't
really make sense:
OPTIONS= HAL "Compile with HAL config support"...
.if !defined(WITHOUT_HAL)
(not having HAL is not an option) -- right?
2. As soon as my new X was up, I started to notice consistent
appearances of garbage in my `xterm's -- the garbage that is easily
removed by redrawing a window.
More than a year ago, I switched my workstation (not this computer)
from Debian to FreeBSD, where my primary motivation was to try to
get rid of the sporadic and quite often garbage in the work windows
-- after I switched to FreeBSD, I have never seen that garbage
again.
The essential point here is that Debian used HAL, and FreeBSD
didn't.
Does anybody know if HAL can be a plausible cause of this
annoyance?
It would be great if it were possible to switch to the new X without
bringing in HAL, at least for some time -- too many variables changed
in this transition and I am not sure what configuration variation to
try next to identify the source of the garbage.
-- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net --
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