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Date:      Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:30:50 -0400
From:      Jung-uk Kim <jkim@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Ngie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, roger@purplecat.net
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, des@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Reported version numbers of base openssl and sshd
Message-ID:  <9e7742fa-a995-b58f-8cd3-30d77d4fab6c@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <2530D2B9-F7EA-4A12-A596-1B2BF4B83AAF@gmail.com>
References:  <01eb01d21e52$4a7f1640$df7d42c0$@net> <2530D2B9-F7EA-4A12-A596-1B2BF4B83AAF@gmail.com>

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From: Jung-uk Kim <jkim@FreeBSD.org>
To: Ngie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, roger@purplecat.net
Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, des@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <9e7742fa-a995-b58f-8cd3-30d77d4fab6c@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: Reported version numbers of base openssl and sshd
References: <01eb01d21e52$4a7f1640$df7d42c0$@net>
 <2530D2B9-F7EA-4A12-A596-1B2BF4B83AAF@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <2530D2B9-F7EA-4A12-A596-1B2BF4B83AAF@gmail.com>

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On 10/04/2016 18:21, Ngie Cooper wrote:
> (CCing the current maintainers for OpenSSL and ssh)
>=20
>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 00:16, Roger Eddins <roger@purplecat.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Maintainers,
>>
>> Thank you for your excellent efforts in maintaining the FreeBSD code b=
ase. =20
>>
>> Question:  Could version number obfuscation be added to openssl and ss=
hd or
>> have the proper relative patch version number reported from the binari=
es in
>> the base system?
>>
>> Reasoning:  PCI compliance is becoming an extreme problem due to scann=
ing
>> false positives from certain vendors and a big time waster with older
>> FreeBSD releases reporting the original base version number even after=
 patch
>> updates.  This is requiring us to compile/run openssl port and
>> openssh-portable creating a highly unnecessary maintenance burden on o=
ur
>> admins when the package binaries would be sufficient if the these core=
 base
>> components would report the latest version number.  OF course, blockin=
g the
>> scanning engines on certain ports is an easy trick but that doesn't so=
lve
>> the root cause of the problem.  We have a snowflake type environment f=
or
>> custom hosting solutions so that hopefully gives a good picture of why=
 using
>> ports for these core components is so time consuming.
>>
>> If the official stance is to use openssl port and openssh-portable jus=
t so
>> the FreeBSD OS can report back the latest version number to PCI scanni=
ng
>> engines, sobeit but makes little sense at least in the context we exis=
t in
>> and interfacing with PCI compliance vendors.
>=20
>     I think this request sounds reasonable. I don't know how difficult =
it might be or what exactly you have in mind version number wise.. But I'=
m guessing you have a straightforward idea that could be described.

As an OpenSSL maintainer for the base, I always try to merge the latest
OpenSSL releases.  For releng branches, so@ is in total control.

Jung-uk Kim


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