Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:28:56 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: John Brann <jbrann@panix.com> Cc: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Good news -- pipe stuff Message-ID: <22080.822864536@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:21:47 EST." <199601281923.OAA07191@jbrann>
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> Something about this clearly got under Jordan's skin, and for the first > time (and I do always try to read as much of his postings / e-mails as > I can) I detected real irritation in his analysis. I'm disappointed in OK, I'll take this in several parts. First off, I don't think that you can really appreciate the overall impact or style of delivery in the presentation merely from reading the proceedings. Words that often sound perfectly reasonable on paper are anything but when presented from a pulpit, and if you sit through 43 minutes of presentation only to have the conclusions tossed out in the last 2 minutes then it's going to be a far more jarring and disturbing experience. Second, I think you may have missed my essential point. I expected these people to present their research and allow the audience to draw its own conclusions, not attempt to wrap it up with their personal agendas (which Larry didn't even make an effort to hide - I'm not just firing wild accusations of agenda here) and mix politics with research. They don't mix very well at all, and in the case of these two papers it wasn't even a particularly good *attempt* at mixing them. They started like research papers and ended like infomercials. Give me one or the other, please, but not both! This also has nothing to do with the larger issue of "FreeBSD vs Linux" - my stance on that remains unchanged. I have no bone to pick with Linux users or their OS and I'm perfectly happy to see them evangelise it to the heavens; more power to 'em! What I fervently dislike are attempts to disguise such evangelism as something else. It's wholly unnecessary subterfuge and does not increase my respect for those who engage in it. Jordan
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