From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 20 00:47:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9FD1065698; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from areilly@bigpond.net.au) Received: from nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com (nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.168.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A798FC12; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com ([124.188.161.100]) by nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20100820004740.GANG23327.nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com>; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:47:40 +0000 Received: from johnny.reilly.home ([124.188.161.100]) by nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20100820004739.HZSA13584.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@johnny.reilly.home>; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:47:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:47:39 +1000 From: Andrew Reilly To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20100820004739.GA6576@johnny.reilly.home> References: <4C6505A4.9060203@FreeBSD.org> <4C650B75.3020800@FreeBSD.org> <4C651192.9020403@FreeBSD.org> <4C673898.2080609@FreeBSD.org> <20100818134341.GA88861@johnny.reilly.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com from [124.188.161.100] using ID areilly@bigpond.net.au at Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:47:39 +0000 X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A090207.4C6DD0AC.0080,ss=1,fgs=0 X-SIH-MSG-ID: rx0wEtX+TAD0zmQs0WyzOwJxyArnqyN48Z4QX81loRIGTUDCp8DeQ9rVMfpRsMuxxDxMJhqFNGUnaajkTY3Rs9mK Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "C. P. Ghost" Subject: Re: Interpreted language(s) in the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:47:42 -0000 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 06:40:37PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote: > Will have to disagree on that - part of the point of having such a > thing would be to attract young developers, and while the CS crowd > will be happy with LISP, anyone starting programming after the first > .com bubble will probably be repulsed by non-Algol-like syntaxes. I suspect that you're right, though that disappoints me somewhat. The only other language that I'm aware of that does a reasonable compiles-to-C and has an algol-like syntax is Eiffel (specifically SmartEiffel), but I haven't used it for years, and don't know how it's travelling. It's also nowhere near as dynamic and "fun" a programming experience, IMO. Cheers, -- Andrew