From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 20 7:27:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B9437B71C for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:27:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12693; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f2KFMYh92566; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:22:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15031.30138.214213.123377@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:22:34 -0500 (EST) To: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How serious are we about ccc? In-Reply-To: <99656d$hgs$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <99656d$hgs$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber writes: > Do we consider ccc (ports/lang/compaq-cc) just a curiosity and > squarely put the blame on ccc if something doesn't build with it, > or do we want ccc do have a modicum of usefulness? No. Yes(*) Yes. (*) But it might be fixable, via comp.config. > Lest this be misunderstood, I'm merely asking an honest question. > I recently built the mawk port with ccc, which works. Today I've > tried Ogg Vorbis. Libtool doesn't handle building shared libraries > with ccc (which I would assume to be a configuration issue) and > the compiler dies on some of our system header files, which I > haven't examined yet. Is there any worth in investigating these > problems? Yes, very much so. The gnu compiler is terrible on the alpha platform. Not only does it produce slow code, it produces broken code and/or crashes at even modest optimization levels. Wrt dying on the system header files, I assume you are aware of how to setup the comp.config so that it searches ccc specific versions of our header files prior to looking in /usr/include? Check out /usr/lib/compaq/ccc-($version)/alpha-linux/bin/comp.config Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message