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Date:      Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:22:34 -0500 (EST)
From:      Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
To:        naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Cc:        freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: How serious are we about ccc?
Message-ID:  <15031.30138.214213.123377@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>
In-Reply-To: <99656d$hgs$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de>
References:  <99656d$hgs$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de>

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Christian Weisgerber writes:
 > Do we consider ccc (ports/lang/compaq-cc) just a curiosity and
 > squarely put the blame on ccc if something doesn't build with it,
 > or do we want ccc do have a modicum of usefulness?

No.  Yes(*) Yes.

(*) But it might be fixable, via comp.config.

 > Lest this be misunderstood, I'm merely asking an honest question.
 > I recently built the mawk port with ccc, which works.  Today I've
 > tried Ogg Vorbis.  Libtool doesn't handle building shared libraries
 > with ccc (which I would assume to be a configuration issue) and
 > the compiler dies on some of our system header files, which I
 > haven't examined yet.  Is there any worth in investigating these
 > problems?

Yes, very much so.  The gnu compiler is terrible on the alpha
platform.  Not only does it produce slow code, it produces broken code
and/or crashes at even modest optimization levels.

Wrt dying on the system header files,  I assume you are aware of how
to setup the comp.config so that it searches ccc specific versions of our
header files prior to looking in /usr/include?  Check out
/usr/lib/compaq/ccc-($version)/alpha-linux/bin/comp.config

Drew

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