From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Nov 8 03:15:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA01317 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 03:15:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA01310 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 03:15:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wghhicks@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA23774; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 05:13:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from atl-ga11-13.ix.netcom.com(199.183.210.173) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023770; Sat Nov 8 05:13:30 1997 Message-ID: <34644944.A4C78319@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 06:13:08 -0500 From: Jerry Hicks Reply-To: wghhicks@ix.netcom.com Organization: TerraEarth X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith CC: Jonathan Mini , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x86 gods; advice? Suggestions? References: <199711081106.VAA01053@word.smith.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mike Smith wrote: > > > Jonathan Mini wrote: > > > I have looked at FreeBSD's boot loading code in detail. As to writing > > > realmode code, I feel your pain. Currently I am suffering from the same > > > problem myself. The closest I have come is Bruce's bcc package, which is > > > *ahem* an entertaining set of utilities. The C compiler has been more annoying > > > that frustrating. > > > > Well, in the bad old days, I would probably have reached for Forth. > > There is some precedent for this approach over at Sun... > > OpenBoot is big and expensive. > > > I could probably whip up a Forth metacompiler for FreeBSD pretty quickly > > using PFE as the host. Just a thought. > > If you can roll a bootloader that uses just the BIOS and has a > footprint around 7k, you'll have our attention... > > mike Sounds doable... (Sound of mad scientist trundling off to basement)