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Date:      Thu, 2 Nov 2017 19:43:20 -0700
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, FreeBSD Toolchain <freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org>, freebsd-hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Head build unsafe for /etc today
Message-ID:  <AD087A1B-ABBA-4829-A870-046FB17B3D3A@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20171103023651.GC34123@FreeBSD.org>
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> On Nov 2, 2017, at 19:36, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 07:23:27PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 07:08:50PM -0700, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>>>> On Nov 2, 2017, at 18:49, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
>>>> You're making changes to the build infrastructure and you're
>>>> not properly testing it before committing?  This is beyond
>>>> pointyhat material. 
>>> 
>>> I ran 2 universes, dozens of buildworlds and buildkernels,
>>> dozens of installworld and installkernel, several xdev and
>>> native-xtools, several full DIRDEPS_BUILD builds and bootstraps,
>>> ran subdir builds, ran subdir cleans, tested several targets together,
>>> ran various special case tests for submakes, played around with a
>>> ton of MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX cases, handled and tested symlinked objdirs
>>> special, ran it through my work repro a few times, did special
>>> testing in rescue/, and had a volunteer test release.  In the process
>>> I found a bmake bug, GPL_DTC build bug and several others I don’t
>>> recall from the bus.
>>> 
>>> What I missed was the “clean” buildworld because I forgot it
>>> even exists. I’ve wanted to remove it for a year. I also forgot to
>>> test buildenv.
>>> 
>> 
>> If you did all the above under META_MODE, then no you did not 
>> buildworld and buildkernel and all the other stuff you claim.
>> If your first step isn't  'cd /usr/obj ; rm -rf *' or equivalent
>> in whatever jail you use, then you're not properly testing 
>> your changes to the build infrastructure.
> 
> I did test this, personally, and missed it.

To be fair you didn’t test the AUTO_OBJ piece but did test the much more riskier changes to objdir handling. Thanks for that.


>> As you have demonstrated,
>> Makefile, Makefile.inc1, and the *.mk files are sufficiently 
>> complicated that proper testing should be done, and proper 
>> testing means one doesn't takes shortcuts.
>> 
> 
> Mistakes happen.  Things sometimes get accidentally missed.
> 
> Glen
> 




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