From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 2 16:23:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD687106564A for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8446C8FC13 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbg20 with SMTP id g20so4547947ghb.13 for ; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:23:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JHT1Y97S9pk2/EuxCuckMBVhMVEwWj6HLKNAUMvEYqY=; b=moK6BzNV0CX3Yot+LW3rqE/YBwsUxcp9VN0hS5a6ILIRVLXTybg1rrU2csa33FvC4W BsqpELxL+XIBQwqiP0OZuMso++B5M3rhcBFZuNyQuiwGwy2l1rg5dYZqm1AmhBlfAzDV Xg+jE4s/Nrjh9lVNnEo+4zYo8KALN4cBGilQo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.40.198 with SMTP id z6mr13710872igk.39.1322843020762; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:23:40 -0800 (PST) Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.12.139 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.12.139 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:23:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111202015133.GA4111@dragon.NUXI.org> <20111202064132.GC88903@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4ED8776F.9060301@FreeBSD.org> <20111202072349.GA89183@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20111202083501.GA73959@dragon.NUXI.org> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:23:40 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JQov4V-E3osGlMGqP_chL-gHWIs Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Lyndon Nerenberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Max Khon Subject: Re: WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes by default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:23:42 -0000 On 2 Dec 2011 15:57, "Lyndon Nerenberg" wrote: > > Max, I think a reasonable default is to continue building and shipping profiled libraries. This keeps FreeBSD consistent with every other UNIX variant released in the last (at least) 30 years. > > If you personally find profiled library builds slow you down too much, a one line addition to your /etc/src.conf solves the problem for you. > > Personally, I find building kernel modules to be intolerably slow, since I tend to run static linked kernels. I dealt with my preference by adding one line to my /etc/src.conf, not by submitting a patch request to disable the functionality in the builds. > > If you choose not to profile your code, that's entirely your choice. Breaking this functionality for everyone else who *does* make the effort to profile their code is a non-starter. Nothing is being broken here, just a default being changed. Users make up a greater proportion of our userbase than developers, so sensible defaults for them are more appropriate, right? Chris