From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Wed Dec 4 07:30:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039E21CBF76; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 07:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47SVqd63Nzz4WL3; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 07:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (v-critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B4B11AF101; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 07:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xB47TvBZ017940 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Dec 2019 07:29:57 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xB47TvKm017939; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 07:29:57 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Ed Maste cc: freebsd-arch , freebsd-arm Subject: Re: arm64 as Tier 1 for FreeBSD 13 In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <17937.1575444597.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 07:29:57 +0000 Message-ID: <17938.1575444597@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47SVqd63Nzz4WL3 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 07:30:06 -0000 -------- In message , Ed Maste writes: >> Binary updates and source patches for Security Advisories and Errata >> Notices will be provided for supported releases. > >We don't do this today, but have the ability to do so for arm64 server >platforms. (Due to its design, freebsd-update does not work >particularly well on devices with slow root filesystems such as SD >cards.) I don't think storage-technology should be used as a discriminant here. First because it is quite trivial to plug in a quality USB SSD (WD passport for instance) and use that as root filesystem. Second, just because freebsd-update takes a day to run, doesn't mean that people would not want it. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .