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Date:      Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:18:08 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Danial Thom <danial_thom@yahoo.com>
To:        David Hoffman <zionicman@gmail.com>, Brett <thisdayislong@gmail.com>
Cc:        Ingrid Kast Fuller <ingrid@cityscope.net>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post
Message-ID:  <20060619131808.23440.qmail@web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <e8b564e30606181812i7f61e73frea867acb60c5bf91@mail.gmail.com>

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--- David Hoffman <zionicman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Update:  their website now attributes copyright
> to both HouFUG AND Brett.
> This is despite the fact that Brett seems to be
> the sole owner of the work.
> I'm not sure why this community feels it can
> disregard rights to
> intellectual property, especially when it
> produces so much on its OWN to be
> proud of.  Why steal other people's stuff?
> 
> On 6/18/06, David Hoffman <zionicman@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > It'll certainly be less confusing that what
> HouFUG is publishing.  They've
> > now noted on their site that it was written
> by you.  However, they STILL
> > claim they own the copyright.  Have you
> waived any of your exclusive rights
> > to the work?
> >
> > On 6/18/06, Brett <thisdayislong@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I hope the DMCA copyright notice, found at
> > >
>
http://arbornet.org/~soup/dmca.html<http://arbornet.org/%7Esoup/dmca.html>,
> clears up any confusion.
> > >
> > > thank you!
> > > On 6/18/06, Ingrid Kast Fuller <
> ingrid@cityscope.net> wrote:
> > > > I responded to Bretts email 6 minutes
> after he informed me there maybe
> > > a
> > > > problem with this article.  He did NOT
> bother to tell me he was the
> > > owner of
> > > > it.  All I knew is someone named Brett at
> thisdayislong@gmail.com was
> > > > letting me know there was a problem.  I
> immediately went to
> > > arbornet.org to
> > > > see where the original information was so
> I could find the
> > > originator's name
> > > > and emailed him back, here is my reply.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ingrid Kast Fuller [mailto:
> ingrid@cityscope.net]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:40 PM
> > > > To: 'Brett'
> > > > Subject: RE: concerned question
> > > >
> > > > I got the information from the
> freebsd-config mailing list which is
> > > > referenced at the bottom.
> > > > Do you know where the original
> information is on arbornet.org?  I
> > > would not
> > > > want to infringe on anyone's rights.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ingrid Kast Fuller
> > > > CityScope Net 713-477-6161
> > > > 3910 Fairmont Parkway #264
> > > > Pasadena, TX 77504-3076
> > > > http://www.cityscope.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brett
> [mailto:thisdayislong@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:34 PM
> > > > To: ingrid@cityscope.net
> > > > Subject: concerned question
> > > >
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > > > It has come to my attention that you have
> an article, located at
> > > >
> http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm
> > > > that is hosted on your fine site and yet
> is not referenced.  It holds
> > > a
> > > > copyright reference for houfug, who did
> not write the article.
> > > > Please attribute the work to
> soup@arbornet.org .
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > A concerned citizen

Its interesting that the same types of people who
whine incessently about things like open source
will get all worked up about a "copyright" on
some stupid how-to "article". 

You know what they say; if its not worth money,
you might as well get credit.

That notice on the bottom of the page looks so
stupid and childish. Its almost like they're
mocking the author. Like who cares who wrote it.

dt

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