From owner-freebsd-bugs Mon Jan 27 4:40: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A85237B401 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 04:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE98843F43 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 04:40:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0RCe3NS058921 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 04:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0RCe3X0058920; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 04:40:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 04:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301271240.h0RCe3X0058920@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Valentin Nechayev Subject: Re: conf/47468: Sysinstall offers different timezones for Ukraine. Reply-To: Valentin Nechayev Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR conf/47468; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Valentin Nechayev To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: jc@minjust.gov.ua, wollman@lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: conf/47468: Sysinstall offers different timezones for Ukraine. Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:33:18 +0200 Four different Ukrainian timezones are reflections not of current timezone, and not of official regulations, but of former ones in quite historical times. One can see, e.g., comment for definition of Crimea time: # Central Crimea used Moscow time 1994/1997. Or for other two non-standard zones: # Ruthenia used CET 1990/1991. # Zaporozh'ye and eastern Lugansk oblasts observed DST 1990/1991. If it is subject for PR, the whole zonetime system is subject for PR because it requires separate timezone to reflect any local time specific in any past or future time. Moscow time in Crimea during 1994-1997 is fact. It isn't our task to discuss its political reasonness or resonance. It is question for timezone database maintainers to detect whether this base should keep past time specifics. If yes, and there are disk space, each request for reflecting local specific should be approved. If no, one should delete all specifications which affects any day before now, e.g., if now is 2003, any data for 2002 and earlier should be deleted. Or, more moderate approach, delete all non-computer epoch (for Unix, before 1970). But this is -arch issue, or even Posix issue. Hence I treat this PR as incorrect. Igor, I think you should discuss it in -arch first. =netch= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message