From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 10 06:52:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C95D16A412 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B569313C457 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so400960nfc for ; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:52:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=izWQezs3ecqsZM0ZbEL4uV3J11gG2v8/tvLzeRdR+iK88LqmNrGbq62klKYoAVJV6Bx/NtFCrsv9pp/oFMQlEsrG5THwdRpPwKksEDSHn0eKx7eu4rrhTjZJMj3psteT8rLsiq6b6lAfbuAihAdHGoUzq2kW11pORfSZUUKcNRQ= Received: by 10.82.118.2 with SMTP id q2mr6426buc.1168411952481; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.134.19 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:52:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:52:32 -0800 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "Nikolas Britton" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45A2805E.7060000@ccstores.com> <20070109222558.GA75695@xor.obsecurity.org> <45A42CF3.4000600@u.washington.edu> Cc: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:52:34 -0000 If I could program my way out of a _paper bag_ I would. But I cant. But ive helped drive some wonderful gifting Fbsd's way in my time..im still a believer. On 1/9/07, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 1/9/07, Jeff Mohler wrote: > > Fbsd needs SAN support before it can cope with > > virtualization..virtualization requires a lot of disk..spindles..and > > FCP/iSCSI is a great way to drive this condensation. > > > > I mean..when you have to read this list, and see people wonder which > > end of a SAN connection owns the responsibility for fsck'ing a SAN > > filesystem, I wonder how quickly I can bone up on Linux. > > > > In ten years at Network Appliance..wanna know exactly how many FreeBSD > > host installs ive seen besides Yahoo? > > > > 2. > > > > How many -non- Linux SAN configurations? Probly 80% of all SAN I see > > and work with are Linux based. > > > > Fbsd NFS client performance is 1/3'd that of a tuned linux box, can > > you say ../..? If you can, you know what its like to never have a > > valid directory attr cache on your mounts. (ick) Automount...dont > > even go there. > > > > Im in this for the long haul..I like Fbsd, and as long s lynx and > > apache still work on it, im happy. As for the future..I just dont see > > much serious future there unless it grows up. > > > > Rememer when Linux couldnt do _crap_ and Fbsd 2.5 was the bomb? I > > do...I want like to see that again. > > > > I'd like to see FreeBSD on top too, I really love and care for it but > I'm very disappointed and ambivalent with the projects current state > of affairs. I think one project that should be attempted is to get > FreeBSD running on top of a Linux kernel. This could potently solve > FreeBSD's biggest problems.... We could mold it (the Linux kernel) > into are own kernel while still maintaining compatibility with the > real Linux kernel tree. anyhow... it's something to think about. >