From nobody Thu Oct 13 13:05:33 2022 X-Original-To: arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Mp8rx1Tjvz4fwSJ for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Mp8rx0xrkz3F0l for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1665666337; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=ZTE3dAMFkW0a9AT+2GZpsnMKmUSI/ozWFL3jl01Y61s=; b=Fr+AUVCkGeetzdtTXGNjiooULuozFyzwcl5hiLd5vJrmKzeRN5wm8X3WHdmDyZHdRpjjpY k5R57GiD9W0SVhrSm/RHNkCLA9f26DjpONnso5zn11FekGeALPlUJabyg1ADbY6n6KUqAr Q5CKecF12xUwGxQoihSoLDIGfSJG+qBlxU0DRkmtbqbn9Q58Q6i1cDGhXMdvwEHucuN9gp jI/quCuYXopdhXPj6pYnWH4XNgsMI46NO3sXb+kJjNy2Zc3VWFD2q3/ba4K9+ph+thR8JD PzvgOrrrNwJQ8aecw5tVmzmBB3hCv2E3UxhqM0+Wwg/XS0VhCl/cLOj7HBAfzA== Received: from aniel.nours.eu (nours.eu [IPv6:2001:41d0:8:3a4d::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bapt) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Mp8rw6K0bz18R4 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by aniel.nours.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 95AB212290B; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:05:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:05:33 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: arch@freeBSD.org Subject: Switching from sendmail to Dragonfly Mail Agent by default Message-ID: <20221013130533.n33j6fziwkqnjppc@aniel.nours.eu> List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1665666337; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=ZTE3dAMFkW0a9AT+2GZpsnMKmUSI/ozWFL3jl01Y61s=; b=HUOsZxDL7bLtZNLuFOkRAmvdJtoppIRAaCurpTGV/FZAIGEi3pjyhkSOZ2ANDTT01XjiU3 pX/kHHiPvv4TtWnQquj9uMBgLosuVM8sMg0Vd6/sNIvZ7A6yGS08rDrZ3eWii0xdZad0S6 eTMNxvKl7AXXkYJipRTrLVv1Xz1F8poOoSz/4qXp/BU3iK6gIojzud7IjvsOIshue328Go kb/bVC7WqE7hJaG/Sxo/PIqRnd6q3dOkIN5DBwaY4UNwwKS1P0hEj860GeuTgsxVsThTle m2U+lLep6Oqeuvs5ryzB9z8jDPjjdfk4PdV7nkUUBjrhXVzOlK4J1b06mrpzvA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1665666337; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=DvWcjukjFIwJW7wZfAK7bYz5RFayS4bKO1ceA0dhZdY+62ZKOCNEWkImaStwos+Bg3hF81 LwrCJT+0EuP21zLAlz+SU9xImXGbCfdGyXUiVfiLbBUBB2tXKf1MCxeDpHb3dDVxogn7+h ahYMlhJZJ+V9Wei/TJc58RixoYO7PIZPfRcyH/y5Uski2BH/koaOKsbUj5DmMAuQx/WfOm viDnQ2rXqta3S+DAwTOXSyE4F+KXkbMZutN8Rp9kI06hOGIMFGO59MV4GUPUgDzLfPVTyo V17sRZZKbaSPKimT7lQzarLgIl1Nnl3na3zuOoPKgrzCl7zEipD7Uxls1LXN3g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hello everyone, As of today, on a default FreeBSD setup, a mailer agent is configured in order to be able to distribute locally emails (from crontab for example) and/or for relaying those emails. This role has been served by a stripped down version of sendmail up to now. By stripped down, I mean it is built without the support for feature that would make it a full featured MTA, like no support for ldap. Long time ago we have imported Dragonfly Mail Agent, a minimalistic MTA born within the Dragonfly Project, covering exactly those needs and only those. It has matured slowly over the time and we believe we have addressed all the major issues reported preventing it from being the default. For FreeBSD 14 we would like to activate it by default. It means: - install by default mailer.conf from dma (and install the one from sendmail in /usr/share/example/sendmail) - activate sendmail_enable=NONE by default in /etc/default/rc.conf - make mailwrappe fallback on dma. If noone brings an obvious blocker, this change will happen in the next couple of weeks! Best regards, Bapt