From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jul 14 08:58:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA15128 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15100 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17189; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:58:35 GMT Message-Id: <199607141558.PAA17189@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA209029938; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:58:58 -0600 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:58:58 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Cc: jfieber@indiana.edu, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607140713.JAA15291@uriah.heep.sax.de> (message from J Wunsch on Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:13:34 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD keyboard Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "J"org" == J Wunsch writes: J"org> When looking at the icon and toolbar etc. forest of the J"org> typical application of these days, i still believe it's J"org> rather done for optics than to improve recognition. For optics? You mean sex appeal, right? Icons are a waste of screen space. The argument that ``a picture worth is worth a thousand words'' doesn't hold any water when most icons actually represent just one or two words. The argument that they encourage internationalization is bogus because cultural reference bases enforce different meanings on different symbols. Even within a culture, meanings are ambiguous: does the magnifying glass mean zoom-in or search? If it means search, then what are bionoculars for? And there are just some meanings for which there are no good icons. My favorite examples that demonstrate this fact are my icons for `load' and `save.' I'll spare you the ASCII art, but consider a pile of dark dog sh*t, with fumes rising and even a fly or two circling. That's load, obviously. For save, just use a Christian-styled cross. Don't forget the federally-required 3-D borders. :-) The sad thing is, after wasting 4096 pixels for a 64x64 icon, most applications still put one or two words underneath to remind you what the fool thing is supposed to mean! Yow! Does sex ever sell. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/