From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 9 04:40:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B137106566C for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 04:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F698FC17 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 04:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbfm10 with SMTP id fm10so567423wgb.1 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:40:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=TngImReOtTaX5MA7WMc2WXVf8NdGC2qV4hbOQZInTZI=; b=JIO4sdC7QuVKRBDqESeIKOaxePVpsvomoxS08QQ/PQNu1fKWukggbLgEvTYPhaZAFf OW61D7lYmOOVau1g+j1Lz1Vw7yp9ikumV/gnE3R8F6t7AYQpnubbZH6txCaJbkvhPvK5 m2w6wJhjMTmswAtZoyRKO+9dFm68n+6LEBrKXF4piVrvLCDJvQ7biFC5QqpqlNKT2Yyo GlZEnjJGCkNSnm16AS+wBgzIeuS5pYTMf/NoEWt97lgqzQ/dYkbz8oAAfhBGrLZcY25t A3K+ftVtLTyHj6TWkaxc0Agpaml3X97r3GJY5YVOrwyNUnktKfwOGZRTr40CPOyGyO+p VTwA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.233.95 with SMTP id o73mr6066496weq.59.1347165654435; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.183.2 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 21:40:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1347116905.578461.8570.23750@saddam3.rambler.ru> <20120908210049.1dadfde2.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 21:40:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: =?KOI8-R?B?98nUwczJyiD01dLP18XD?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: =?KOI8-R?B?ydfBziDL1drOxcPP1w==?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 04:40:56 -0000 On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM, =F7=C9=D4=C1=CC=C9=CA =F4=D5=D2=CF=D7=C5=C3= wrote: > 2012/9/9 Waitman Gobble : > > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:08:25 +0400, =C9=D7=C1=CE =CB=D5=DA=CE=C5=C3=CF= =D7 wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > i was download 135g distfiles from russian mirror on usb hdd, > >> > and i have no room on laptop for this files.how to setup apps > >> > from it,how to build pbi files? i was read some articles but i > >> > cant. > >> > >> I assume it's better to ask PBI-related questions in PC-BSD's > >> web forum as those are not exactly "native FreeBSD things". > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Polytropon > >> Magdeburg, Germany > >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how building PBI files is going to help with your 135G of > > files from Russia that won't seem to fit on your drive, however there i= s > > some pbi software in ports for you to check out.. > > > > ports-mgmt/pbi-manager > > sysutils/pbimaker > > x11-fm/pbi-thumbnailer > > sysutils/easypbi > > > > > > I've experimented a bit with the software on FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT and > > PC-BSD 9 machine - but I'm not an authority on the subject ;-) ... pbi > > could prove to be a good way to test out stuff that needs newer glib, > gtk, > > etc, to avoid royally dorking up your system, like for example GIMP > > development sources from cvs, as an alternative to building in a jail a= nd > > running the display through an X 'remote' connection. > > > > > > Here's a wiki page i found to be a good reference. > > > > http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PBI_Module_Builder_Guide > > > > Waitman Gobble > > San Jose California > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Sorry for offtopic, but for Ivan to know three things: > 1) building software (and/or packaging it using PBI/tbz) is WAY more > complicated then just downloading distfiles from some mirror. > 2) PC-BSD is BASED on but not EQUAL to FreeBSD and has it's own > mailing lists which can easily be found here - > http://lists.pcbsd.org/mailman/listinfo . Please do not think i'm > trying to be rude or get rid of new member, but sometimes one needs to > know the better way to find necessary information. > > 3) PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD since this deep knowledge of it > basically (i suppose) should begin with FreeBSD's Handbook which > carefully explains what ports are and how to use them. This page is a > good start (it's in Russian ;) ) > -http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/ . Ports > specific information can be easily found here - > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/ports.html > > Cheers! > > > -- > > > > > ~~~ > WBR, > Vitaliy Turovets > Systems Administrator > Corebug.Net > +38(093)265-70-55 > VITU-RIPE > X-NCC-RegID: ua.tv > I have installed PC-BSD on a netbook. I have not played around on it a whole bunch, so I'm definitely not an expert. They really did a good job with it, PC-BSD has a more compelling visual experience. For a novice computer user it's a great way to have the experience of true Unix without ending up resorting to angry language on the mailing lists. For more experienced users it seems like it would be a robust platform for such as scientific research, medical systems developers, manufacturing control, process coordination and shop floor machine operation. On my Eee Pc Netbook I had some difficulty with the X configuration tool, which must be run in order to launch the desktop. I chose to install the Xfce desktop suite of the several choices available in the selection. The prompt display was pristine, yet the X test suffered some malfunction no matter which setting I tried. When I was able to launch the desktop, the display was off kilter and extremely difficult to navigate. This obstacle was overcome by manually updating the X configuration file. There are numerous resources available online for troubleshooting these kinds of problems. The system seems to be solid, so I'd be surprised if it offers the thrill of compiling your own operating system. But there are compiling tools available so one could presumably pull the source and do a build. Building a PBI package does indeed seem to be much more involved than making a package. A package build is straightforward and takes little effort to create a Makefile in the case that your intended software does not happen to already be in the ports collection. Also, the package system offers a way to easily synchronize software updates across many machines. After a package is built and verified on one machine it can be rapidly transferred to machines in a large global cluster. I found the idea intriguing as a method of creating 'system-safe' packages of bleeding-edge development snapshots for experimentation. The PBI requires more configuration, and as I understand creates larger distribution files. However, the PBI package is designed to run self-contained. Libraries which are not part of the standard system are compacted into the PBI package, and are installed within the PBI application jail. This could lend to increased application security, since system files cannot be updated from the PBI install. A package system may have full control of the system files. Waitman Gobble San Jose California